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Subject:Re: HIDs? Was: Does the H4 bulb put out more light than the 9004 bulb?
From:David Marshall
Date:Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:40:18 -0800

First, show me where it says that 100W halogen bulbs are illegal.

Second, if you've never been flashed, chances are you are meeting with
drivers who are a lot more tolerant over overloaded vehicles (ATVs in the
back of pickups) and misaligned lights.� Doesn't mean what you are
doing is correct.� Flashing someone is illegal BTW!

I will
also state that US laws are some of the most outdated laws in the world
for automotive stuff - all to protect the all mighty automobile
industry!� The only place where superior ECE lights are illegal at a
federal level... 

H4s - go for them!� HIDs, keep them out
of reflector based low beam technology... 

If I see crappy self
installed HIDs... I bright them!�� I also have a pair of road
legal Hella 4000 Xenon lights too!� :-D

David Marshall
VW Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
 
http://www.hasenwerk.ca

On Tue, November 10, 2009 14:36, John
Anderson wrote:
> As did/do all the overpowered H4s or overpowered
halogen bulbs everyone
> has run for years, all illegal, all with
the potential to annoy and cause
> glare�Mike, that is my
point.� Let alone the euro only reflectors, and the
>
E-codes, and even worse the idiots running RHD 7" reflectors�on
LHD cars.�
> If I'm not getting flashed in over a year, it
ain't annoying anyone, I'll
> keep doing it so I don't hit a
moose.� I read this stuff when put em in, I
> read the stuff
that told me not to put the first set of Hella�55/60W H4s
>
in my '78 diesel Rabbit in 1987 as well.�
> �
>
Chalk it up to my generous disregard for fellow man, running my Honda
> generator for my wife when I camp, etc, etc, etc.� Again what
I am
> interested in is if anyone has put them in the stock
reflectors, and if so
> were they or were they not exceptionally
annoying, because if they are, I
> will refrain, if they are not,
I will likely install a set and am not
> wanting to blow the $180
to find out.� Who knows maybe I'll put a 4"
> stainless
tip on the exhaust too, and cut a couple coils off it to lower
>
it...
> �
> John
> 
> --- On Tue,
11/10/09, Mike S <mikes@flatsurface.com> wrote:
> 
>

>
From: Mike S <mikes@flatsurface.com>
>
Subject: Re: HIDs? Was: Does the H4 bulb put out more light than the
9004
> bulb?
> To: "John Anderson"
<wvukidsdoc@YAHOO.COM>
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 4:35 PM
> 
> 
> At 04:01 PM 11/10/2009, John Anderson wrote...
>>Ahh
baloney.
> 
> No. Scientific fact.
> 
>
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
> 
>
http://dastern.torque.net/techdocs/HID/HB1_HID_Retro.pdf
> 
> Feel free to have a pissing match with the experts.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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