we are all wossess ...
the pro use
http://www.strangenewproducts.com/2006/03/portable-urinal-for-truckers.html

glad i gave up being pro before it got to this

:)

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Donna Skarloken <dskarloken@gmail.com>wrote:

> Used the porta potty until my son was about 4 or 5, but always pulled over,
> never in motion.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > I agree completely with this, and I too was a bit taken aback by the
> > idea of anyone, child or adult, using a portapotty while a vehicle is in
> > motion, or sleeping on the bed -- though in the old days, we simply
> > stretched out.  As a small child, I slept many times stretched across
> > the back bench seat of a car.  I don't recommend this now.
> >
> > So far as the rear seat belts, GoWesty sells rear seat 3 point belts and
> > a tether kit for child seats.  I'd check them out with safety personnel
> > before trusting them, but they are available.  I suspect GoWesty may
> > actually have reports from safety agencies, as they would be litigation
> > averse (or should be).
> >
> > David McNeely
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Steve Williams wrote:
> >
> > I don't want to be a killjoy, and certainly I spent many happy hours
> >> in the way-back of a Beetle as a toddler, traveling across the
> >> country with my parents.  Heck, when I was 10, my Mom drove a
> >> squareback VW from California to Iowa with three kids and a weeks-old
> >> baby in a bassinet balanced on the back seat.
> >>
> >> But those VWs also had no seat belts in the back seats, and attitudes
> >> about child car safety have changed.
> >>
> >> In California, at least, children under 6 must be in an approved car
> >> seat or booster seat unless they've grown to 60 pounds.  I doubt a
> >> booster seat can be used properly without a shoulder harness, and I
> >> don't know whether the Vanagon's rear lap belts can properly secure a
> >> modern car seat.
> >>
> >> The laws may grandfather vehicles that lack the necessary
> >> equipment.  I know I wouldn't worry about being ticketed for carrying
> >> passengers in the rear seat of my '67 Beetle with no seat belts.
> >>
> >> But I wouldn't let a 4-year-old sleep unrestrained in the back of a
> >> Vanagon or ramble around on the floor.  And I certainly wouldn't put
> >> a child in the front passenger seat.  I'd want to do some research
> >> into the safest way to restrain a child when only lap belts are
> >> available.
> >>
> >> Sorry to be a downer.
> >>
> >
>

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