

| Subject: | Re: syncro, prop shaft R&Rreport |
| From: | Bruce Todd |
| Date: | Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:41:48 -0800 |
Hi Alistair, I've waiting to try the Volvo test and have just completed it. The van was cold however, and I'm not sure how much that comes into play. I believe the test suggested the vehicle be driven for 20 minutes or until warm. Regardless, I was over 40 ft lbs. I am looking to attempt the 2x4 test but am waiting to borrow a larger floor jack. I guess my question is whether you tested your van cold or warm? That being said I still have fairly noticeable binding issues when turning into a tight parking stall after driving several hours on the highway - so the verdict on the VC is not in by any stretch of the imagination. BT 86 Syncro Westy On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > hi, > > background: purchased '86 syncro this last summer, prop shaft out > because of vibrations, vc was assured to be ok. U joints on prop > shaft looked suspect, but i installed and yes, vibrations at 50-60 > kph. Also vc was weak, not passing 2x4 test. > > I replaced u joints on shaft (precision brand, #813), checked the fit > of the shaft and bushings on guibo end (nice and tight), and popped > shaft back in. Still vibrated at same speeds. Loosened front diff > mounting bolts, drove around, no difference. > > Removed shaft, examined u joints, one was loose so I replaced circlip > with thicker one (u joints came with 2 sets of circlips). Checked > bushings and shaft fit again. > > Today i put it back in, but before it was installed I did a quick > check on vc by using the volvo method outlined on document on my blog > (http://shufti.wordpress.com/). I got a value of 17 ft/lbs. Not much > eh? Confirms vc is weak. > > It would would be interesting if others would do this simple and > quick test and post results, I bet there is a range of values. > > Oh, and as well as putting prop shaft back in today, I replaced the > uniroyal laredo tires the van came with with some Nokian > Hakkapeliitta CS tires. > > Road test: tires louder and firmer. Vibrations almost gone, A very > slight vibe at 60 kph, but its a narrow band and not bothersome (that > said, I will work to eliminate it). > > Mud test: on the farm here there are ample spots to get stuck, and it > has been raining pretty hard the last 2 weeks. Last week with prop > shaft out and laredo tires on, I tried going up a curving, maybe 20% > hill, grass and clay/mud. I never made it, even with rear diff lock > on. Today, even wetter conditions, I made it up no bother, and no > diff lock. > i toodled around lumpy, uneven, sloping ground, grass over North > Saanich clay. Didn't get stuck, but the front wheels didn't "feel" > like they are doing much. > > Conclusion: prop shaft vibes mainly due to "loose" u joints, either > when they were old worn out units, or new ones, not installed with > correct circlips. The "off road" performance I attribute mainly to > the great tires. Perhaps the vc is allowing a little torque to get to > the front, probably wishful thinking. > > cheers > > Alistair > '86 syncro 7 passenger > '82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94 > http://www.members.shaw.ca/albell/ > http://shufti.wordpress.com >
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