

| Subject: | 85 westy, impending zetec conversion plus auto to manual conversion |
| From: | Mike South |
| Date: | Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:08:55 -0600 |
Hi, I have an 85 Westy automatic. I am planning a Zetec conversion (already have the engine sitting in my garage, haven't bought the conversion kit yet). I am also thinking that I want to switch from automatic to manual transmission at the same time. I am thinking about getting this as a donor van: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=838265 It says it has a '92 Jetta Turbo Diesel Engine. I wasn't able to find a lot of information on this conversion (by "not a lot" I mean "none"--but this may just be because I don't know what to search on to find that engine). Does anyone know whether that conversion would leave the transmission "as was"? (I have contacted the owner, and he is going to ask his mechanic about it as well--if the answer is "you just have to look", I hope to have that in a couple of days.) I also have a somewhat vague notion of rebuilding my auto transmission and putting it in the donor van and getting the donor van running again. Although that is not 100% critical, I am figuring that potential into the price. From what I've read on thesamba and elsewhere, there are various issues with the manual transmissions from various years. On Wikipedia (at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Type_2_(T3) ), it says: "This was one of the few vehicles ever in which the automatic transmission was tougher than the manual transmission, which was caused by the fact that, up until the 1990 model year, the third-fourth gear synchro slider hub was of a flawed design. This could result in cracking, or even breakage, causing the transmission to get stuck in 3rd or 4th gear. A new 3-4 hub design less susceptible to stress fractures was implemented sometime in late 1989, first showing up in early 1990 model year vehicles." However the "Full write-up" link from the samba (below) says "The transmissions from the 83.5-85 are considered to be stronger and don�t have the concern of the 3rd gear selector hub failure." Understand that I don't know what a selector hub is (I would naively guess that it may be something that slides along a shaft to choose which gear is driving?). I just don't want it broken, whatever it is :). Here are the threads I read from thesamba.com about transmission conversions: Full write-up on converting Vanagon from auto to manual<http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=283352&highlight=convert+manual> another thread about automatic to manual<http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=355607&highlight=convert+auto%2A+transmission+manual> more on converting transmissions<http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=185788&highlight=convert+auto%2A+transmission+manual> (I have a couple of private messages from people regarding this, which I do not want to reproduce on the list without their permission in case they were stating things informally and not the way they would want for posterity--the general gist of them was (a) to consider that these particular automatics are owner-rebuildable while manuals require special tools, and (b) they like the manual for the zetec, because the auto doesn't really sync well in terms of when it shifts and such.) I would appreciate any information/opinions. mike
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