BTW, I had a chance to go up in the Brooks Range my first winter up in
interior Alaska to Lake Chandalar. So cold, I couldn't believe. Crawled
up on a big rock and yelled just to hear my echo. Not a sound. I figured
the snow dampened the sound of the echo so it couldn't be heard.  Later
that year back in Fairbanks I ran into an old Sourdough from up that
area. . We were talking about my visit to Chandalar and my experience
with the no echo. He told me he had been wandering around up around
Chandalar right at spring thaw when of a sudden he heard my echo. It
seems  it had been so cold that winter that  echo's had to thaw out to
be heard!

John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com

John Rodgers wrote:
> When you live in extreme environments, where ever it is, I think it just
> follows that normalcy is extreme. Living in the extreme cold of the
> north was an eye opener for me, and I came to more fully appreciate the
> tales of the Gold Rush Days, etc. I'm sure living in arid desert
> environs and other places has it's challenges as well.
>
> John Rodgers
> Clayartist and Moldmaker
> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
> Chelsea, AL
> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>
>
>
> Zolly wrote:
>> Very fascinating to read about the normalcy of the far north
>> lifestyle.  I'm
>> sure, there are many other interesting differencies which I would gladly
>> read about if you would compile them for us or just me.  It would be an
>> interesting reading for my teenage boys for Christmas.
>> I have seen a few Vanagon Campers in Alaska.
>> Zoltan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: Okay, How Cold Is It? Vanagon Content
>>
>>
>>> When I lived in the Far North - it wasn't cold until below zero F. It
>>> would often get down around -35F and just hang there for days. Steam
>>> and
>>> smoke would not rise, and you could look at the vents on homes and
>>> watch
>>> the vent condensation rise above the pipe about 6 inches then fall back
>>> in a stream plunging down the roof and over the edge to the ground like
>>> a stream falling through the mountains. Contributed a lot to ground
>>> fog.
>>> When the temperature would rise to Zero F it was like spring, and if it
>>> got to 15F it was darn near a heat wave. People would run around in
>>> their shirtsleeves - running n and out of the stores, etc, etc. But,
>>> all
>>> Alaskans knew - and I'm sure others in the Frozen North Country -
>>> knew -
>>> keep that parka and those boots in the car at all times. NEVER EVER go
>>> anywhere without them. It's a way of life - and guarantees life.
>>>
>>> John Rodgers
>>> Clayartist and Moldmaker
>>> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
>>> Chelsea, AL
>>> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don Spence wrote:
>>>> What a bunch of whiners!    Yesterday morning it was -28C  (-20F). My
>>>> westy has squared tires and sits forlornly under 18 inches of fresh
>>>> snow.  Looks like an adventure wagon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  Okay, How Cold Is It? Vanagon Content
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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