

| Subject: | Re: insurance terminology |
| From: | dylan |
| Date: | Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:58:14 -0800 |
Try the archieves. I have written about this numerous times as well as others. I have helped recover over $50k from stated value policies three times in the past 10 years. If you monthly budget for insurance on your van is less than $300, don't bother. ________________________________ From: "mcneely4@cox.net" <mcneely4@cox.net> To: dylan <insyncro@yahoo.com> Cc: mcneely4@COX.NET; vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 1:46:03 PM Subject: Re: insurance terminology See my embedded comments. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM, dylan wrote: > Better do a little more researching. Here are links to two of the sources I used.� These two agree with the various insurance companies I consulted. http://www.4carinsurancequote.com http://vehicleappraisers.com/Insurance_Information.html If your sources differ, please provide the sources, as I am well satisfied after consulting quite a few myself. Bottom line is as I stated --- read the fine print, and make sure you are getting what you think you are getting. > > Try Hemmings Motor News. > > What you have stated may be true for Gieco or similar, but there are companies that deal only with classics and stated value policies. > > I have helped a few listees over the years setup policies and recover more than the van sold for at the dealer, when it was totalled. > > Go Westy has helped show the retail value of these vans. > > dylan > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave Mcneely To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 11:45:23 AM > Subject: insurance terminology > > After the discussion of stated value insurance, I did some > investigation.� I found: > > 1.� Stated value insurance seems not to differ from the insurance that > we all carry on late model cars, except there is a maximum value stated > in the policy.� The policy with the stated value typically has a > provision that in case of theft or total loss, the insurance company > will pay the lesser of (1) the stated value, (2) actual cost to repair, > or (3) actual cash value at the time of the loss. > > So, stated value insurance seems to offer no advantage to the consumer > (owner of a vanagon, for example). > > 2.� Agreed value insurance is offered for collectible, classic, or > antique cars.� This is similar to stated value insurance, in that there > is a particular valuation placed on the vehicle at the time the > insurance policy is issued.� The policy will then pay, in the event of > loss, the lesser of (1) the agreed value, or (2) actual cost of repair. > > Agreed value policies typically have significant restrictions on use, > including a miles driven per year restriction, storage restriction > (locked storage facility, indoor storage are usual requirements), driven > only to show events and so on. > > 3.� Insurance agents often misunderstand or misrepresent the > limitations, benefits, and advantages of the two kinds of policies.� In > particular, they often misconstrue, and communicate incorrectly to > buyers, that stated value insurance will pay the amount stated in the > policy.� This appears not to be true. > > For most of us, it would seem that stated value insurance offers no > valuation advantage, and agreed value insurance has serious limitations > for those who use their vehicles outside the severe limitations allowed > (though if the vehicle is used within the restrictions, then one should > expect to receive the agreed value in the event of loss). > > Bottom line:� Be very careful in buying insurance to be sure you are > getting what you need and expect. > > I undertook this investigation because I had been told by my insurance > agent (AAA), that I could not get a policy that would pay more than the > underwriter's valuation for my camper, even with appraisals.� It seems > that I can, but with restrictions on use.� I will be looking now for an > agreed value policy, but with restrictions I can live with (for example, > I could live with 12 or 15k miles maximum driving per year, and I could > store my camper in a locked facility, but I could not live with 5K, and > I could not live with driving it only to events.� Hell, I haven't been > (and don't expect to ever go) to an event yet). > > David McNeely > > David McNeely
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