I see.
'grinding' does not sound good at all with an automatic vanagon trans.
how's the differential oil level and condition ?
how's the ATF look, and what's it look like in the pan ?

----- Original Message -----
From: "john" <jhlauterbach@BELLSOUTH.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: ominous sounds from automatic transmission

> Hello Scott:
>
> thank you for your assistance. Sounds are not like CV.  All the times
> sound has happened I have not been in a turn.  A couple of times it
> sounded like a gear grinding.  A couple of other times, it felt like a
> slip, but on my "hill" test, both upshift points were right a 4600 rpm.
>
> I have no idea as to actual mileage. At least three engines have been in
> the van.  There have been several instrument clusters.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 18:10 -0800, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>> Have CV joints been considered ?
>>
>> I've been involved with two vanagon automatic transmissions that did not
>> work correctly - no, three, come to think of it.
>> No noises in any of them.
>>
>> if the trans itself is suspect, I'd drop the pan and see what's in there.
>> Also a great idea to check the differential oil .......to see if it's
>> full,
>> and to make sure it's not contaminated with ATF, which is one of the
>> failure
>> modes of vanagon transaxles.
>>
>> also ........on noises........it always helps to say if it's a whirr, a
>> cluck, and squeak etc.
>> In English we have many words to describe the nature of sounds.
>>
>> How many miles are on it ?
>> and a nose description would be nice.
>> and at least consider CV joints, and rear wheel bearings.
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "pdooley" <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: ominous sounds from automatic transmission
>>
>>
>> >I don't know the problem, but my experience with auto trans is they make
>> > noise for a precious short time before the major fireworks happen.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> > Of
>> > john
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:37 AM
>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> > Subject: ominous sounds from automatic transmission
>> >
>> > My '84 7-passenger, which i have owned since 1997, started making some
>> > strange sounds today.  sounds apparently coming from automatic
>> > transmission, but i don't think I have a dirty valve body as the shift
>> > points are right on and smooth.  Noises occur while accelerating.  What
>> > happens when an automatic transmission is just worn out?  What are my
>> > options?
>> >
>> > John in Macon, GA