The early calipers don't use carriers but they do come with new pins and
the cross shaped tensioner clip.  I also have later model calipers as
well that are listed as rebuilt ones for $75 plus a $75 core charge.
They are all brand new and come with brand new carriers and guide pins
as well.  An excellent deal since many times these are also worn out.

Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com

dylan wrote:
> Ken,
> Is that $79 with the hanger?
> Both are brand new?
> if so, good deal.
>
> dylan
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
> *To:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> *Sent:* Tue, January 5, 2010 9:29:19 AM
> *Subject:* Re: How do I determine the brand of my calipers?
>
> Jim, you are going to have to pull one wheel off at least.  You will
> either see ATE or a large G in the center of the caliper body.  Just
> bundle up.  Just FYI but we sell brand new calipers for $79 each.  They
> require your old ones as a core (not sure why) but the ones are get are
> brand new not rebuilt.  You could just order a pair and then you
> wouldn't have to worry about ATE vs Girling because as long as you
> replace them in pairs either will work.  Just a thought.
>
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> www.vanagain.com <http://www.vanagain.com/>
>
>
> Jim Felder wrote:
> > I'm wanting to rebuild the front calipers on my 1983 diesel Westy
> > soon. Since it's freezing cold here right now, I was wondering if
> > there's a n easy way to determine which style--Girling or ATE--that I
> > have without removing a wheel.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >