Yeah, now the REAL topic comes under discussion; the difference between Moon discs and Baby Moons.� The full Moon discs cover the entire exposed wheel (like a full wheel cover) so that only disc and tire are visible while Baby Moons are like the small VW hubcaps that cover the wheel center and leave the holes exposed (the ones sometimes described as "dog dish" hubcaps).
�
Stephen

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: moon caps, and who knows?
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:59 PM

I have a stock 91 GL non-camper and plastice hubcaps with vents around
perimeter were on the van.� I put the moon(dog dish) caps on cuz I thought
they looked cool.� Would like to get real moonies that cover the entire
wheel sometime.

Before
http://picasaweb.google.com/sandwichhead/VWVanagon?authkey=Gv1sRgCNzC3sKJi5j_jQE&feat=directlink

After
http://picasaweb.google.com/sandwichhead/LaborDayNewRack?feat=directlink
Michael in San Antonio
91GL AT 'Gringo'
73 Beetle

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> What you describe is what I have on my '91 camper.� They were stock on many
> different VW vehicles for years.� David
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Jim Felder wrote:
>
>� I don't know what you are referring to as moon caps, but I have always
>> thought of them as the chrome dog-dish that snaps onto the wheel lugs
>> but does not cover the row of vent holes at the wheel's perimeter. In
>> other words, you see the paint. My 83 camper and every other diesel
>> camper I have seen representing itself as stock has had these one it.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>� On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Jeff� wrote:
>>
>>> In the USA:
>>>
>>> Early Vanagons had the full-size metal (not moon caps) hubcaps.
>>>
>>> Mid-year Vanagons had the plastic hub caps with the cross-hatch pattern
>>> (very easy to break).
>>>
>>> Late model Vanagons had the plastic hub caps with "vent" openings on the
>>> outer edge (or alloys).
>>>
>>>
>>> Moon caps were not standard issue (it's possible that they could have
>>> been special ordered) in the USA.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Dave Mcneely
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:37 AM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: moon caps, and who knows?
>>>
>>> I may be wrong about this.� I reviewed Jim's web site more completely.
>>> For the camper, he shows aerodynamic wheel covers as standard.� I THINK
>>> he is wrong, but at any rate, the evidence I offered for my own belief
>>> contradicts me.� Moon caps clearly were standard on some models, if he
>>> is correct, but not on the camper, again if he is correct.
>>>
>>> Seems really odd to me, that the guy who sold the van to me would have
>>> also thought the moon caps he replaced were the originals, if not.� But
>>> stranger things have happened, for sure.� Sorry if I offended anyone,
>>> but evidence contradicts not only me (Jim's web site), but others (the
>>> owner's manual).
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:48 AM, mark drillock wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris, we are not talking just about a picture. The text itself
>>>> explains
>>>> how to use the tools to remove the chrome type as well as the plastic
>>>> type caps.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jordanvw@AOL.COM wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ALL vanagons have that picture in the owners manual.� doesnt mean
>>>>> they came
>>>>> with chrome moonies though :)
>>>>>
>>>>> all vanagons even came with that U shaped chrome moonie puller in the
>>>>> jack
>>>>> kit.� weather they came with chrome moonies or not..it was in
>>>>> there...
>>>>>
>>>>> like i said in another post, VW is famous for using euro market
>>>>> vehicles in
>>>>> their US market owners manuals.���in my 85 owners manual some of the
>>>>> pics
>>>>> of the headlights show H4 e-codes..which were never on us models..
>>>>>
>>>>> chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>