

| Subject: | Re: Is Wood/Gas Possible for For Vanagons |
| From: | David Beierl |
| Date: | Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:48:58 -0500 |
At 11:23 AM 1/20/2010, John Rodgers wrote: >adaptable to my van. Then I stumbled across this. Pretty interesting stuff. Of course it's possible. But I promise you wouldn't like it. With the existing engine I sincerely doubt that a Vanagon could get up to the minimum speed (45 mph) to run on highways, although if you filled the entire interior with wood pellets and a stoking mechanism you could probably get decent range. Producer gas is 20-30% carbon monoxide which is ninety-five times more attractive to hemoglobin than oxygen is; small concentrations will sneak up and kill you because the oxygen can't compete, and high concentrations IIRC cause abrupt and total respiratory failure. Your relatives will have the consolation that your corpse will be a nice healthy pink, since carboxyhemoglobin is a much brighter red than oxyhemoglobin -- that's one of the diagnostic signs, in fact. Producer gas (made from coal, normally) used to be used as city gas, which is why suicide by oven was in favor at the time -- quick, quiet, reliable, not too painful. It's rumored that in some Eastern European countries under Communism, the police would turn off the gas to an entire street before they made their raid, so you can imagine how fast the stuff must have acted. Until our cities are bombed out and/or some other terrific disaster strikes and we have to suddenly convert an existing fleet of IC-engine vehicles to direct-biomass fuel without replacing the engines, I officially suggest that using producer gas for vehicles is a Friday subject. The Stanley Steamer OTOH had a very nice flash boiler and I believe it could get up steam in about a minute from a standing start (using liquid fuel presumably). Twenty-five years ago or so Saab was thinking about a steam-powered vehicle and I believe they followed at least somewhat along the lines of the Stanley. I suggest not considering steam turbines -- they are extremely successful in large ships, but had an utterly disastrous history in railroads because of vibration and shock. Yours, David [/hat]
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