Just using this as an example of how to get your Syncro out of control due
to it's 4WD.� Not saying this is how you should drive - I reserve
that for empty parking lots, off road and other places where I have no
chance of hurting someone else.

David Marshall
VW
Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
 
http://www.hasenwerk.ca

On Sun, January 31, 2010 13:53,
mcneely4@cox.net wrote:
> So, 90 degree turn (a corner in other
words) at 50km ph  (slightly over 30
> mph)?  Well, you maybe, but
I'm glad you don't drive in my neighborhood. 
> 4WD exists to get
you going, not to get you and others killed.
> 
> David
Mc
> 
> 
> ---- David Marshall
<mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA> wrote:
> 
>> Now,
take a 90deg
>> intersection at 50 km/h like you would in the
dry only cover it in ice
>> and
>> then a layer of
snow on top of that.  Do it in a Syncro and then do
>> it in a quattro.  With the Syncro you will have the
back end come out
>> because those wheels are going to spin
while the fronts do nothing other
>> than get slowed down by
the snow.  One the rear wheels start spinning
>>
you will start to loose control.  In effect you better be
quick or
>> else you will get into a horrible
spin.  With an all wheel drive like
>> the Audi
quattro it is always 50/50 front and rear so one end won't spin
>> even for an instant faster than the other end.  The
older Torsen
>> diffs would pull power away from the wheels
that want to spin and the
>> newer electronic systems do the
same as well.  The new Subarus are
>> pretty good
too!
>>
>> Not sayign the Symcro is bad, just that
there
>> are better much 4WD systems out there!
>>
>> David Marshall
>> VW
>>
Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
>>
>>
HasenWerk
>> http://www.hasenwerk.ca
>>
>> On Sat, January 30, 2010 23:04, Kim
>> Brennan
wrote:
>> > So the Washington DC area got the snow I
>> predicted earlier in the week
>> > (helps to have
good weather
>> models...and then to trust them.) About 6
>> > inches in my immediate
>> area (Tyson's Corner,
VA, on DCs western side.)
>> >
>> > I had
>> some errands to run and headed out in my Jaguar X-type
(manual
>> >
>> transmission, all wheel drive.)
I've got some Vredestein severe winter
>> > rated tires on
it (less than 3000 miles on them. Didn't really have
>> any
>> > trouble, but (as I had noted earlier with this vehicle)
the
>> majority of
>> > the power goes to the
rear, and in turns it is not
>> difficult at all to
>> > break the rear loose from the road. Mine is
>>
a 2002, which uses a Viscous
>> > Coupler (later they went
away from
>> that.)
>> >
>> > I
then stopped in at the house and changed
>> vehicles to my 91
Syncro
>> > passenger van (non-GL, with an SVX
>>
engine). This vehicle as the Nokian
>> > tires
>>
>
>> >
>> Uh. Night and day. While the Jag is
competent, the Vanagon Syncro is
>> > otherworldly. Never
had trouble, even in turns, same set of roads
>> too.
>> >
>> > I love my Syncros. :)
>>
>
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