all's well that ends well.  Take care, David

---- David Marshall <mailinglist@fastforward.ca> wrote: 
> 
> 
> Just using this as an example of how to get your Syncro out of control due
> to it's 4WD.  Not saying this is how you should drive - I reserve
> that for empty parking lots, off road and other places where I have no
> chance of hurting someone else.
> 
> David Marshall
> VW
> Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
>  
> http://www.hasenwerk.ca
> 
> On Sun, January 31, 2010 13:53,
> mcneely4@cox.net wrote:
> > So, 90 degree turn (a corner in other
> words) at 50km ph  (slightly over 30
> > mph)?  Well, you maybe, but
> I'm glad you don't drive in my neighborhood. 
> > 4WD exists to get
> you going, not to get you and others killed.
> > 
> > David
> Mc
> > 
> > 
> > ---- David Marshall
> <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA> wrote:
> > 
> >> Now,
> take a 90deg
> >> intersection at 50 km/h like you would in the
> dry only cover it in ice
> >> and
> >> then a layer of
> snow on top of that.  Do it in a Syncro and then do
> >> it in a quattro.  With the Syncro you will have the
> back end come out
> >> because those wheels are going to spin
> while the fronts do nothing other
> >> than get slowed down by
> the snow.  One the rear wheels start spinning
> >>
> you will start to loose control.  In effect you better be
> quick or
> >> else you will get into a horrible
> spin.  With an all wheel drive like
> >> the Audi
> quattro it is always 50/50 front and rear so one end won't spin
> >> even for an instant faster than the other end.  The
> older Torsen
> >> diffs would pull power away from the wheels
> that want to spin and the
> >> newer electronic systems do the
> same as well.  The new Subarus are
> >> pretty good
> too!
> >>
> >> Not sayign the Symcro is bad, just that
> there
> >> are better much 4WD systems out there!
> >>
> >> David Marshall
> >> VW
> >>
> Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
> >>
> >>
> HasenWerk
> >> http://www.hasenwerk.ca
> >>
> >> On Sat, January 30, 2010 23:04, Kim
> >> Brennan
> wrote:
> >> > So the Washington DC area got the snow I
> >> predicted earlier in the week
> >> > (helps to have
> good weather
> >> models...and then to trust them.) About 6
> >> > inches in my immediate
> >> area (Tyson's Corner,
> VA, on DCs western side.)
> >> >
> >> > I had
> >> some errands to run and headed out in my Jaguar X-type
> (manual
> >> >
> >> transmission, all wheel drive.)
> I've got some Vredestein severe winter
> >> > rated tires on
> it (less than 3000 miles on them. Didn't really have
> >> any
> >> > trouble, but (as I had noted earlier with this vehicle)
> the
> >> majority of
> >> > the power goes to the
> rear, and in turns it is not
> >> difficult at all to
> >> > break the rear loose from the road. Mine is
> >>
> a 2002, which uses a Viscous
> >> > Coupler (later they went
> away from
> >> that.)
> >> >
> >> > I
> then stopped in at the house and changed
> >> vehicles to my 91
> Syncro
> >> > passenger van (non-GL, with an SVX
> >>
> engine). This vehicle as the Nokian
> >> > tires
> >>
> >
> >> >
> >> Uh. Night and day. While the Jag is
> competent, the Vanagon Syncro is
> >> > otherworldly. Never
> had trouble, even in turns, same set of roads
> >> too.
> >> >
> >> > I love my Syncros. :)
> >>
> >
> >