Not a problem. 
Well I added a remote switch. From the alternator to the solenoid gave it the best wacks that I would, it just humms.  I am not sure what that is telling me? Starter weak?
Thanks
Kevin 

> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:50:53 -0800
> From: scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM
> Subject: Re: Starter Help!
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> 
> darn !
> how did I miss that 91 info...
> my brain ....I need to do something !
> 
> my apologies for wasting anyone's time there. 
> Scott 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Kevin Plichta 
>   To: scottdaniel@turbovans.com ; vw vanagon 
>   Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 1:36 PM
>   Subject: RE: Starter Help!
> 
> 
>   Thanks for the reply, I will work on a remote starter that I can do. I did say it was a 91, but it is stock 2.1 and manual 2 wheel.
>   Thanks again
>   Kevin  
> 
>   > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:21:05 -0800
>   > From: scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM
>   > Subject: Re: Starter Help!
>   > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>   > 
>   > a cheater trick and diagnostic thing -
>   > use a Remote Stater Swtich ..
>   > connected to battery hot lead on the starter ( I often use the nut on the
>   > alternator , same thing ) and the 'starter trigger terminal' on the starter
>   > solenoid,
>   > and making sure it's in neutral and things are safe,
>   > energize the starter with your Remote Starter swtich.
>   > 
>   > if it doesn't go.
>   > whack the starter on the side with a hammer.
>   > If that makes it operate .......
>   > so far, every time........that's been a bad starter.
>   > 
>   > Do also consider the electrical part of your ignition switch ...those can be
>   > weak for sure.
>   > I simply could not fix vanagons without a Remote Starter Swtich ...
>   > perfect for self-rescue, and diagnosis etc.
>   > 
>   > you could also say year and model and version of vanagon.
>   > I can't tell if you are talking about an air-cooled one,
>   > a diesel, a 1.9 waterboxer, a 2.1 waterboxer, or one with an automatic
>   > transmission., or a syncro ...etc.
>   > 
>   > that info is always useful.
>   > 
>   > replacing that cable from solenoid to starter motor.
>   > I'm a little suspecios of that 'repair' myself.
>   > that sounds like 'extending the life' of a pretty tired starter in the first
>   > place.
>   > 
>   > 'not normally done' is what I'd say.
>   > those Bosch starters are so good....and last for so many years... ( I don't
>   > even think about messing with a non-bosch rebuilt used starter if it's weak
>   > , I just get a good Bosch Rebuilt one. )
>   > 
>   > When one finally does give out ...
>   > I only get Bosch Rebuilt Starters ..........and then it's good for a long,
>   > long time.
>   > 'Some' of the versions of vanaogn I mentioned above use a starter bushing in
>   > the transalxe, some do not.
>   > another reason why 'make, modle, and year' information is needed to comment
>   > intelligently.
>   > 
>   > Scott
>   > 
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: "Kevin Plichta" <plichtakevin@HOTMAIL.COM>
>   > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>   > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:35 PM
>   > Subject: Starter Help!
>   > 
>   > 
>   > My 91 starter not turning. I here the fuel pump come on, there is 12v at the
>   > main starter lead and less than 4 at the solenoid when turning the key. When
>   > I disconnect the solenoid lead and turn the key there 12v. So under a load
>   > is when I think is the problem but what ?? I had the starter tested at a
>   > shop and worked. Some history, this past fall the short braided cable
>   > between the starter and solenoid was replaced at a shop.
>   > Thanks again for your wisdom!!
>   > Kevin Plichta
>   > 
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