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Subject:Re: Problem installing a baby seat - resolution (for now anyway)
From:Jake de Villiers
Date:Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:56:49 -0800

Typing "seat belt I clip" in the Google search window (www.google.com - a
very helpful site!) returns this result:
http://www.carseatsite.com/lockingclips.htm

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> What is an "I clip"?  Sorry to be so ignorant, but that is my usual state
> regarding all things mechanical.  David Mc
>
> ---- Markus Benne <mbenne@M-BASS.COM> wrote:
> > Thanks Annie!
> >
> > Using the instructions you supplied on the use of the I-clip for seatbelt
> shortening
> > as inspiration, I was able to shorten the length of the female part of
> the seatbelt.
> >
> > Unfortunately not as short as those instruction (I was missing about 3mm
> > of length in order complete maneuver 4; I might be able to stretch the
> > belt overnight) but in step 2, instead of feeding it through again, I
> > just looped it over the ends as is done in step 4.
> >
> > That took over 2" out of the length and that is enough to tighten the
> > belt securely.
> >
> > Upshot is nothing cut or relocated or fabricated, although I think all
> > of those done properly would have been ok too.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > ...Markus (and Emma)
> >
> > Annie wrote:
> > > Here are instructions on using the I clip as a belt shortener:
> > >
> > > *To use a belt-shortening clip*
> > > First, push the vehicle seat all the way back on it's track if
> possible.
> > > Apply weight to the child safety seat, buckle the belt and pull the
> > > webbing all the way out of the retractor
> > > Make a loop of ALL the excess belt, and either hold it tightly or mark
> > > the loop to know where the belt-shortening clip should go.
> > >
> > >    1. Unbuckle the belt and thread the loop up through the bottom of
> > >       one side of the clip, then down over the other side.
> > >    2. Double-back the loop over the second set of "arms" on the clip.
> > >    3. Place the *inside* webbing of the loop back in the first side of
> > >       the clip.
> > >    4. Pull the *inside* (underneath) webbing tight.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Place the clip anywhere on the belt so that it lies flat, is not close
> > > to the child's face or body, and is convenient for the belt path and
> > > easy for the installer to install.
> > > Rebuckle the belt and test the child safety seat to be sure it's
> > > tight. If not, repeat steps 2-6.
> > > For the tightest fit, move the vehicle seat forward on it's track.
> > >
> > > ~Annie
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Markus Benne <mbenne@m-bass.com
> > > <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hi,
> > >
> > >     Sorry, the issue is kind of hard to describe.
> > >
> > >     Yeah, the male part can be tightened no problem, but that does not
> > >     change the location of the buckle and that is what interferes with
> a
> > >     corner on the car seat.  The buckle is in exactly the wrong spot.
>  A
> > >     shorter strap on the female side would help.  Most modern cars
> > >     have the
> > >     buckle right near the base of the seat where the seat base meats
> the
> > >     backrest.  The bus has the buckle about 4" past the seat
> base/backrest
> > >     location.
> > >
> > >     Annie, I think the I-piece is to keep the shoulder strap in a fixed
> > >     position to the lap belt, but in the rear of the car, there is only
> a
> > >     lap belt so I don't think the part would help (happy to be wrong
> > >     though).
> > >
> > >     I'm thinking of having a bracket made that would relocate the
> female
> > >     section down a couple inches where it fastens to the body of the
> bus.
> > >     It would be cheaper than a new car seat.
> > >
> > >     Thanks for hints so far.
> > >
> > >     ...Markus
> > >
> > >     Bob Stevens wrote:
> > >
> > >         I may not be getting the full picture, or even getting the
> > >         picture at
> > >         all, but ....
> > >         does the male-belt strap have any adjustment to it so you can
> just
> > >         tighten or
> > >         loosen to suit your needs?
> > >
> > >         bob
> > >
> > >         On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Markus Benne
> > >         <mbenne@m-bass.com <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com>
> > >         <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > >            Hi,
> > >
> > >            I'm having a problem installing the baby seat.
> > >
> > >            The buckle is at a very awkward location relative to the
> baby
> > >            seat.  The
> > >            problem (really my poor choice of seat, I guess) is that
> > >         the Vanagon
> > >            buckle is about 10" long and extends past the seat a long
> > >         way.  By
> > >            buckle I mean the female part of the seat belt with the
> > >         push button
> > >            clasp.  I guess I could look at a generic.
> > >
> > >            Does anyone know where I can get a shorter buckle (6" or
> > >         8") that
> > >            would
> > >            work with the vw parts?
> > >
> > >            Any other ideas?
> > >
> > >            I'm using the gowesty tether which appears to be pretty
> good.
> > >
> > >
> > >            Thanks,
> > >            ...Markus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

--
Jake

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