

| Subject: | Re: question about thermostat ... or not |
| From: | Roger Whittaker |
| Date: | Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:58:53 -0800 |
dear miguel i did NOT replace plastic fitting ... i did not realize it was required to be replaced ... what i did was remove it and then put it back with niew hose on either side ... if i were to splice there ... which i could easily do ... i would require a push on fitting like the sort on the end of the injector ... i thought it funny there were no clamps on the injector itself ... but push on fittings are push on ... now as i think about it i am recalling reading that that plastic bit was for production purposes ... grr bad roger but i could get a two ended push on fitting to splice... thanks for the heads up ... yours On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:20 AM, miguel pacheco <mundopacheco@gmail.com>wrote: > Roger, I wanted to address your comment regarding fuel line > replacement. If I'm reading correctly, you ran new hose from the fuel > tank to the firewall. Does this mean that you inserted the fuel line > into the plastic teat that is bolted to the firewall? I'm assuming > you know that you need to eliminate this teat and go with new hose all > the way to the injectors, then out to the fuel regulator, then out of > the regulator, at least to the other side of the firewall. Old fuel > hose and the plastic teat (both perilously residing inside your engine > compartment) were your main threat and still are. > Miguel > > I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. > - Thomas A. Edison > > > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com> > wrote: > > dear dennis > > yes other problems are certainly afoot > > i purchased a vanagon with a reported new engine ... indeed less than > 1000 > > miles on it ... > > unfortunately ... the person who did the engine work replaced ony one or > two > > hoses and very little else .. > > today i replaced all fuel lines from tank outlet to the just behind the > > firewall grommet ... including new injector seals etc .. > > so tonight as i was checking for perfection of fuel line replacement .... > we > > noticed a smoke like stuff coming from around the fitting that joins the > > block to the thermostat housing ... off to part store to get new hose to > > replace because some lazy mechanic fixed with some disintegrating stuff > that > > was decomposing and burning off ... but until now had gone un noticed due > to > > all the other stuff that required attention drawing our concentration ... > > so what is actually wrong with thermostat .... it is seized ... > discovered > > by boiling and then closly inspecting under brighter light > > in the pot it doesnt even move ... > > this van had not moved in several years ... > > so there are some issues ... > > and yes tires replaced to get ride of old weathered ones ... > > yours > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com > >wrote: > > > >> I have to ask how you find yourself in a situation that you suddenly > need a > >> thermostat with an engine that only has 1,000 miles on it and you also > now > >> have to go on a trip. Thermostats do not suddenly fail without cause so > >> what > >> are the symptoms? > >> > >> The waterboxer thermostat is not a simple open/close device. It is > really > >> used as a mixing valve and the goal is to continuously circulate water > in > >> the engine to maintain constant temperatures between the heads and the > rest > >> of the engine. As the thermostat opens to allow flow to the radiator it > >> also > >> closes a bypass. The design keeps temperatures close throughout. Not > only > >> is > >> it important to maintain temperature but an uncontrolled rush of cold > >> coolant from the radiator to hot heads can spell certain trouble. Also, > >> without the bypass closing you may not get enough flow at idle or during > >> hill climbs to properly cool the engine especially if you have the > radiator > >> partly blocked off. There are a lot of dynamics going on here. > >> > >> My bet is that if you suddenly experienced cooling systems problems > while > >> on > >> your trip the thermostat is not your only problem if that is even the > >> problem at all. Something else is going on. > >> > >> Dennis > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of > >> Roger Whittaker > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:19 AM > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >> Subject: question about thermostat ... or not > >> > >> dear fellow vanagoners > >> > >> i am in a position where i am making a 20 hour drive with out the > >> thermostat > >> in place on a 1984 vanagon > >> with a 2.1 digifant replacement engine (2005) with less than 1000 miles > on > >> it ... > >> > >> benny boy says the thermostat is crucial to proper performance of > injector > >> system > >> then he writes about living in very cold quebec ... > >> > >> i am in the very pleasant northwest ... > >> > >> i will of course replace thermostat with proper item once back home > >> > >> will 20 hour drive cause problems ... > >> what about a four hour drive to get parts then ??? > >> yours > >> > >> > >> -- > >> roger w > >> From Proverbs: > >> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a > >> servant who becomes king ... > >> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> Explore printed work at: http://www.prliving.ca/ > >> View the growing list of video work at: > >> http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > roger w > > From Proverbs: > > Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a > > servant who becomes king ... > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Explore printed work at: http://www.prliving.ca/ > > View the growing list of video work at: > > http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners > > > -- roger w From Proverbs: Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a servant who becomes king ... ---------------------------------------------------------- Explore printed work at: http://www.prliving.ca/ View the growing list of video work at: http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners
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