I forgot about those Porsche Alloy Nuts.
I have used those on the rear of a 2WD vanagon.

they are so light in your hand, they feel like they would float in water.
They're 'cap nuts' - the look great on an alloy wheel.
And they seem strong enough for the job.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: FS: 15" SA vanagon steelie(was: Now alloy lug nuts

. ....that's funny, most stock Porsche 911's have steel studs with aluminum
alloy lugnuts!
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Don Hanson
  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
  Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:31 AM
  Subject: Re: FS: 15" SA vanagon steelie(was: Now alloy lug nuts

    Yes I know the shape is different, the "profile?"...And that may be what
  Scott is mainly referring to..

     But there are actual quite a few wheel nuts and bolts that are made
from
  alloy. These aren't acceptable, safety-wise, on racetracks (by the rules)
or
  (in my opinion) for street use in the real world.  Too easy to damage and
  simply not as strong or as durable as steel..

    I get the point...make certain the shape of the wheel fasteners match
the
  holes in the wheels properly.  But using an alloy nut on a steel wheel
stud
  is risky, too.
    Don Hanson

  On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Jake de Villiers <
  crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:

  > Don, Scott's talking about the wheel nuts and bolts that come with
Vanagon
  > alloy wheels - they are different from the ones that are used on the
  > steelies.
  >
  >
  > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
  >
  >> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
  >> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
  >>
  >> > they also require a cone face lug nut or bolt .
  >> > And it's not exactly the same as the one used on 14 inch alloy
wheels...
  >> > close, but not the same .    Alloy lug nuts or bolts would
work....but
  >> the
  >> > contact area is a lot larger on the alloy nut or bolt.
  >>
  >>
  >>  I've seen alloy lug bolts fail.   They are prohibited on racetracks.
I
  >> don't use them on any vehicle.  A 'ham-fisted'  mechanic with an air
  >> impact
  >> wrench can over-stress them with ease and you'd never know till they
let
  >> go.  You can even twist them right off 'by hand' (make the bolt shaft
  >> break
  >> using a normal lug wrench) and they sometimes seize onto a steel hub
due
  >> to
  >> dissimilar metals reaction.
  >>  Don Hanson
  >>
  >
  >
  >
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