

| Subject: | Re: first try = first run = no running anymore |
| From: | Jim Felder |
| Date: | Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:58:56 -0500 |
If you did what I did once, it started and purred once you put gas in the tank. They don't like being jacked up in the back. Jim On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote: > Whew,,,, ok all is well and after my ego recovers for discovering why it was > not starting I'll inform anyone who is interested. > > It purrs pretty now, got the timing set just right and the cooling system is > bled. �Not a SINGLE leak yet! I'm pretty happy bout that part. > > peace and thanks to all > -Ry > > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < > scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > >> good thinking on the possible damaged hall sender. >> >> It is REALLY helpful to have a Remote Starter Switch to connect to your >> starter trigger terminal while working on your engine like this. >> that way you are right there watching things closely while cranking it on >> the starter �( just turn the key on up front if you want the ignition on, of >> course ) >> >> also... >> a Remote starter Switch ...a tool you buy at any FLAPS .. >> is excellent to have onboard for self-rescue ... >> say the ignition switch isn't working like it should.. You're not stuck. >> You have another way to operate the starter. >> >> and it's a super diagnostic tool.. >> 'cause when you operate your starter with a remote starter switch, you are >> taking the rest of the van out of the picture .. >> so you can more easily tell if it's the starter itself that's acting up, or >> if it's wiring/ignition switch etc. >> >> I simply could not fix cars or vans without one. I use it 5 times a month >> at least. >> Lots of other uses too. >> >> Scott >> www.turbovans.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ry" <rylincoln@GMAIL.COM> >> >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:40 PM >> >> Subject: Re: first try = first run = no running anymore >> >> >> �Gave Jake's suggestion a try. Same result, It sounds like maybe only one >>> cylinder fires. I was home on lunch break so that's all I did. �I have a >>> friend coming over at 4pm so that he can crank and I can check for spark >>> at >>> each plug. >>> >>> I think unknowingly I damaged the hall sensor. I think this because when I >>> removed the distributor to inspect it last night I couldn't easily turn >>> the >>> center shaft until i tweaked the metal cup with the cutouts a bit. �Maybe >>> It >>> got banged while I had it stored in a box waiting for the new engine. >>> >>> :-| >>> >>> -Ry >>> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Jake de Villiers < >>> crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> �Sounds like the timing's maybe a little advanced - retard it 3/8" of an >>>> inch and see what happens. >>>> >>>> Clockwise would be retard. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> �Thanks for the help folks. �I'm still troubleshooting it. Mark, I DO >>>>> have >>>>> my >>>>> transmission filled with oil, I promise, rigged up a nice long hose and >>>>> big >>>>> funnel hanging from rear a/c grating worked great for filling it up. >>>>> �Miguel, I removed the plugs and #2 and #4 were carbon coated more than >>>>> the >>>>> rest, I cleaned them all. �Scott thanks for the advice on raising the >>>>> rearend and letting the wheels spin a bit to get the oil all up in brand >>>>> new >>>>> transmission, I'll be doing that once I get the engine started again. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here's a photo of my distributor and TDC settings. >>>>> http://is.gd/aM4Dz >>>>> >>>>> And some audio of me cranking the engine with timing set by eye as best >>>>> I >>>>> know how. It fires just a little bit. >>>>> http://is.gd/aM4Cs >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again to all. >>>>> >>>>> -Ry >>>>> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Benny boy <huotb@videotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > When something work and you move/touch something and it's stop > >>>>> working, >>>>> go >>>>> > back in time and put it the way it was before. Double check what you > >>>>> did >>>>> > that could have created the problem. >>>>> > >>>>> > Timing may be way off and it was somewhat ok with the plug wire not at >>>>> the >>>>> > right position. Now you need to make sure TDC is right and concord > >>>>> with >>>>> the >>>>> > rotor/distributor cap. >>>>> > >>>>> > What is wrong now is timing. Maybe the distributor gear is not align? >>>>> > >>>>> > The basic of TDC >>>>> > http://www.benplace.com/tdc.htm >>>>> > >>>>> > Ben >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:31:47 -0500, Ry <rylincoln@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >ok so I made a mistake. �i had the spark plugs hooked up on the >>>>> > distributor >>>>> > >cap so that it was firing 1-2-3-4 instead of 1-4-3-2 �even though I >>>>> KNEW >>>>> > >what it was supposed to be, just a late evening working all day > >>>>> >shoulda >>>>> > >taken a break mistake. >>>>> > > >>>>> > >Thing is it started right up that way though was rough and a bit >>>>> loud(now >>>>> > i >>>>> > >know why!). >>>>> > >Now that I got it all hooked up proper like, it doesn't want to > >>>>> >start, >>>>> it >>>>> > >has sputtered a few times. :( �did i do something awful? >>>>> > > >>>>> > >I'm letting it rest right now and charging the batter(i didn't try so >>>>> long >>>>> > >that i let the battery go dead, just knew it hadn't been charged in >>>>> more >>>>> > >than a month) >>>>> > > >>>>> > >sigh... any hep? >>>>> > >-Ry >>>>> > >http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:34 PM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>> > >> I hope you did manage to put oil in the tranny before running the >>>>> engine >>>>> > >> much. You can ruin the dry tranny without driving the van, since > >>>>> >> the >>>>> > engine >>>>> > >> will always turn the tranny mainshaft. >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> Mark >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> Ry wrote: >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>> Update: >>>>> > >>> A few loose bolts on engine tin, timing not dialed in yet, coolant >>>>> > system >>>>> > >>> needs to be bled some more(not that hard imho) and DOH i forgot to >>>>> put >>>>> > >>> trans >>>>> > >>> oil in BEFORE i bolted it all up and made it more difficult to do. >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> BUT first try and it started right up :) >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jake >>>> >>>> 1984 Vanagon GL >>>> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" >>>> >>>> Crescent Beach, BC >>>> >>>> www.thebassspa.com >>>> www.crescentbeachguitar.com >>>> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27 >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >
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