| Subject: | Re: It's Phinally Phriedae, and Drug prohibition created the drug lords. (was (ironically) Re: HIJACKED - update) |
| From: | Michael Sullivan |
| Date: | Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:59:47 -0500 |
Give it time.... this is Phrydae!. And if you have been on the list for a week and have NOT learned anything at all, you are either *really* good or not paying attention. Michael in San Antonio 91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo' 73 Beetle On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Jay lefstein <jleftbrane@gmail.com> wrote: > I signed up for this mailing lis last weekend, so far it seems like a > bunch of bored people venting.. > this is about vanagons right? > > On 15-Apr-10, at 11:49 PM, Mike South wrote: > > The subject says it all. If you (you collectively/rhetorically, >> like "one", >> not singling anyone out) are one of the people that thinks we need >> to do a >> better job of cracking down on drug production and use, you are one >> of the >> people that is creating the problems Mexico is facing now. There's >> just no >> way to avoid responsibility--you _are_ who's doing that to Mexico. >> >> It's not hard to grow marijuana. There's no reason for it to be >> expensive. >> Make it illegal, and, therefore, (artificially) scarce--the price >> goes up, >> and the invisible hand of the market grabs every nearby person of >> questionable ethics that would like to get rich quick and shoves >> them into >> that space. >> >> You think you're doing a good thing by "taking drugs off the >> streets". The >> drugs are still there, and instead of removin drugs, you've added >> thugs. It >> would be some amiable pothead or spaced out Timothy Leary disciple >> selling >> or sharing, and what you have instead is a completely morality-free, >> violent-as-he-needs-to-be person who can make a killing if he can >> get enough >> kids hooked, because you provided him an incentive to do so. >> >> Keeping drugs illegal is not a conservative position, if by >> conservative you >> mean respectful of the Constitution. It is not a compassionate >> position, if >> by compassionate you mean actually helping people. It is a position >> of >> people who either ignorantly or deliberately believe it is ok to >> force their >> will on other people who have done nothing to them. >> >> A plant grows in the ground. You take a gun, put it to another >> man's head, >> and say "smoke that and I'll lock you up". How hard is it to see >> the abject >> immorality of that position? Seriously. >> >> Yours in raving libertarianism, >> >> mike >> >> PS No, I'm not a user, nor do I even use alcohol or tobacco. I >> just know >> where my rights end and yours begin. >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> >> wrote: >> >> Mexico is full of great people. It's government is one of the most >>> corrupt >>> in the world, so that despite having a plethora of rich natural >>> resources, >>> many people are dirt poor. I've enjoyed all the time I've spent >>> there, >>> including field trips that I took students on deep into the >>> country. Met >>> some of the most generous, most friendly, and most fun loving >>> people I've >>> ever known anywhere. Never ran into the bozo criminals who have >>> become more >>> prevalent in recent years. And why have they become more >>> prevalent? The >>> drug lords control the government, the police, much of the >>> countryside. Why >>> are the drug lords so powerful? U.S. drug money. If we want >>> Mexico to >>> become a functional country again, all we have to do is control >>> drug traffic >>> in this country. No market, no industry. Something for some to >>> think >>> about. >>> >>> DMc >>> >>> ---- pdooley <psdooley@VERIZON.NET> wrote: >>> >>>> Apparently bandits down there also use logs or debris to block the >>>> road. >>>> Basically anything to get you to stop. >>>> The book I'm reading tells a story of a traveling salesman who was >>>> robbed >>>> >>> by >>> >>>> a man with an AK-47 riding on a donkey.. >>>> Interesting place, that Mexico. I love to read about it but would >>>> never >>>> >>> go >>> >>>> there. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>>> Behalf >>>> >>> Of >>> >>>> Scott Daniel - Turbovans >>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:52 PM >>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>> Subject: Re: HIJACKED - update >>>> >>>> I hope at the minimum, people in Mexico will realize now ... >>>> if they see vehicles parked by the side of the road in any kind of >>>> remote >>>> area like this .. >>>> turn around and head back the other way pronto ! >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Frank Condelli" <RAlanen@AOL.COM> >>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:06 AM >>>> Subject: HIJACKED - update >>>> >>>> >>>> Folks, here are links to two articles published in the Canadian >>>>> press >>>>> about the two couples that were hijacked in Mexico. >>>>> >>>>> _http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/04/11/13548401.html_ >>>>> (http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/04/11/13548401.html) >>>>> >>>>> _http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/04/07/pf-13504646.html_ >>>>> (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/04/07/pf-13504646.html) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please note that I will be away from my business travelling in >>>>> the USA >>>>> and >>>>> Mexico from November 18, 2009 until April 30, 2010. Parts >>>>> orders will >>>>> >>>> be >>> >>>> processed although not as quickly as usual. I will always be >>>>> >>>> available >>> >>>> by >>>>> E-mail. If you phone, your call will be addressed by Greg T. Brown >>>>> >>>> here >>> >>>> and he will either call you back or advise you to contact me >>>>> directly >>>>> >>>> by >>> >>>> E-mail. See my _www.frankcondelli.com_ (http://www.frankcondelli.com/ >>>>> >>>> ) >>> >>>> website for complete details. Travel Blog at >>>>> >>>> _www.westfaliatravels.com_ >>> >>>> (http://www.westfaliatravels.com/) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Frank Condelli >>>>> >>>>> Almonte, Ontario, Canada >>>>> '87 Westy & Lionel Trains (_Collection for sale_ >>>>> (http://frankcondelli.com/trainsal.htm) ) >>>>> _Frank Condelli & Associates_ (http://frankcondelli.com/busindex.html >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>> - >>> >>>> Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley >>>>> _Vanagon Stainless Steel Exhaust Systems_ >>>>> (http://frankcondelli.com/exhaust.htm) >>>>> _BusFusion_ (http://www.busfusion.com/) a VW Camper camping >>>>> event, >>>>> Almonte, ON, June 10 ~ 13, 2010 >>>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> David McNeely >>> >>>
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