Tom,

It was probably Saturday when they designed the Vanagon because VW
just retired their slide rules on Friday (before 1975) just as we
should retire this thread now. Invoking the holy Vanagon name does not
allow off-topic post to 'slide' under the Friday 'rule' on the List.

If you keep this up, I'm going to have to tell your friends on the
List that you still don't own a Vanagon. Time to man-up and buy a
perpetual project like the rest of us. ;-)

BenT
your mobile mod

On Apr 17, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET> wrote:

> The first A bombs, H bombs and ICBMs were designed by slide rule. So
> were
> most Mercedes and VW's. It's likely that the vanagon was designed
> with slide
> rules considering when the body was first manufactured & concepts were
> usually started 5 to 7 years earlier back then.
>
> For those of you too young to remember or to care, slide rules are
> small
> hand held MECHANICAL calculators that were used mostly by Engineers.
> Without
> slide rules there would be no computers - they were designed with
> slide
> rules too. And BTW, we wrote things on paper back then too.
>
> Tom
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On
> Behalf Of
> Rowan Tipton
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:56 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: subject Phrydae: Super-computer soon to use water-
> cooled system
> for heating occupants
>
> On Apr 16, 2010, at 10:36 PM, Mike Miller wrote:
>
>> Lawrence Livermore Labs used to be heated by the output of the
>> computers they had. At one time, I believe, in the 60s and up to I
>> don't know when they had at least one of every mainframe and
>> supercomputer around.
>> Lots and
>> lots of heat.
>
> It takes lots of computers to design bombs.
>
> r
>
>
>>
>> Or so I was told by folks who worked there and the Berkeley Lawrence
>> Labs.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 4/16/10 3:20 PM, "Peter DiFalco" <peter.difalco@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.livescience.com/technology/Water-Cooled-Supercomputers-
>>> Int
>>> ernet-100
>>> 415.html
>>>
>>> FTA: "Since water and electronics don't mix, the coolant water in
>>> Aquasar does not ever directly touch the silicon computer chips
>>> themselves.
>>> If a
>>> leak should occur, internal sensors would shut the machine down
>>> before causing a short circuit."
>>>
>>> Hey, I wonder why they don't just let it set off a buzzer and make
>>> white smoke...
>>>
>>> "The tubes interspersed in Aquasar will link back to the primary
>>> water transportation network where some of the collected heat will
>>> then be passively released back into the heating system of ETH
>>> Zurich."
>>>
>>> ....Which implies that the building's occupants will need to wear
>>> their earmuffs and overcoats until the programmers have had a chance
>>> to drive the supercomputer around the block for half an hour.
>>>
>>> The real question is whether they'll still have toasty feet even
>>> while the air conditioning's on in the summer.
>>>
>>> Happy Friday!
>
> I remain, as always
> YrLyl&ObdntSrvnt,
>
> r