david, i dont want to poop on your parade, but i dont know what else to tell ya.  EVERY vanagon westfalia sold in the USA had a metallic sticker on the right front door with the VIN and westfalia-werke serial number on it.  if yours doesnt have a sticker there its because SOMEONE PEELED IT OFF OR PAINTED OVER IT.  its a friggin sticker, it can be peeled off..    just take my (and everyone else here on the list) word for it..ok?  , this is kinda like you telling us all that your '91 westy came from the factory with chrome hubcaps.   it didnt.    just because your '91 westy is missing the RF door sticker and has chrome hubcaps, doesnt mean it came that way from the factory, no matter what your PO made you believe.. 

all waterboxer vanagons also had the white paper sticker under the left side of the dash under the fuse box..thats not the one were talking about here though..

and no, im not in a bad mood nor am i cranky...i just ate some wasabi and i have some killer heartburn  LOL

-----Original Message-----
From: mcneely4@cox.net
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; jordanvw@AOL.COM
Sent: Sun, Apr 18, 2010 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: [VANAGON] Strange place for an identification plate on 91 Vanagon.

---- jordanvw@AOL.COM wrote: 
 theyre ALL on the outide of the RF door on westys.<
Hmmmm ........ .
I'm looking at page 151 of  my _Vanagon/Transporter Volkswagen Owner's Manual_ 
hat came with my '91 Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile.  There is  a photograph 
f  "The Vehicle Identification Label."  It looks very much like the one that 
revor gave a link to in his query, except mine appears to be paper without a 
etalized surface.  I quote from my book:
 "The Vehicle Identification Label is located on the left side under the 
ashboard.  The label contains the following information:
1.  Production control no.
.  Vehicle identification no.
.  Type code number
.  Type designation
.  Engine and transmission code letter
.  Paint no./interior
.  Optional equipmennt nos.
Vehicle data 2 to 7 are also found in your Maintenance booklet."
My label, located as described, contains all that information, in the order 
isted and as shown on the photograph in the manual.
On page 2 of the same manual, there is this statement: _ "Your Owner's Manual 
pplies to all Vanagon/Transporter models currently sold in the USA and 
anada."_  Again, the manual says, __"all"__.
I also have a _Camper/Multivan Supplement to Volkswagen Owner's Manual_.   This 
econd book, which describes all the camper equipment in detail, makes no 
ention anywhere concerning any vehicle identification label.
I can only go by the data available to me from examining my camper and the 
ocumentation provided to me by Volkswagen through the medium of the manuals, 
ut it looks to me like the identification label described by Trevor for his '91 
amper as being on the outside of the right-side door is, so far as my vehicle 
s concerned, under the dash below the fuse box, where I've seen it and where 
he owner's manual states that it is.  There is no physical evidence nor is 
here any documentation of such a label being on the outside of any door.  I 
ccept that Trevor's case is related to his vehicle being sold in Japan, and not 
n the U.S.

 
 What trevor said was that the sticker (plate) is on the _outside_ of the 
 assenger door.  I don't think he said (or implied) that the sticker itself was 
> nything out of the ordinary, just its placement.    DMc
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
 Sent: Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:19 pm
 Subject: Re: Strange place for an identification plate on 91 Vanagon.
 
 
 ---- Richard Golen <rgolen@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
 
 
  That plate, actually a metalic sticker, is found on every Vanagon Westfalia. 
 t is the factory serial plate.
 
  Ric
 > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:53:44 -0600
  > From: gneiss9@GMAIL.COM
  > Subject: Strange place for an identification plate on 91 Vanagon.
  > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
  >
 What trevor said was that the sticker (plate) is on the _outside_ of the 
 assenger door.  I don't think he said (or implied) that the sticker itself was 
> nything out of the ordinary, just its placement.    DMc
 > > My vanagon has it's Identification Plate on the outside of the
  > passenger door. I know this is not common but am wondering if anyone
  > else has seen this before? My Van spent most of it's life in Japan,
  > (imported only a year ago into N.America) and can only assume that
  > this is a regulation in Japan for foreign vehicles!?!
  >
  > http://s1003.photobucket.com/albums/af155/onsight2003/?
  > action=view&current=DSCN6607.jpg
  >
  > Trevor Reynolds
  >
  > '91 GL 2Wheel drive, AT, Westy "SEN".
  > http://westfalia-91restore.blogspot.com/
 
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