

| Subject: | Re: Over-full overflow tank..cause for alarm? |
| From: | Don Hanson |
| Date: | Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:18:03 -0700 |
Thanks everyone... I ordered a new expansion tank cap and my hose is a bit crummy. I will replace that as well..sounds like exactly what I am seeing. Also, new thermostat going in....just because... Don Hanson On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote: > Don, > > Varying road conditions will result in variations of the temp needle > position. I seem to have read somewhere that the pressure cap is set at 1 > atmosphere - which is essentially 15 psi at sea level. Expect any change in > altitude to result in migration of coolant from the expansion tank to the > overflow tank. If the pressure cap is working properly and there are no > leaks or holes in the tubing between the expansion tank and the overflow > tank - then the coolant should be drawn back into the expansion tank as the > coolant loses heat. While the over flow tank does have high level marks, if > trouble shooting, it is better to check absolute coolant level by first > allowing the engine to cool. Coolant should draw down to the bottom mark. If > not, then there is a problem - assuming the level was correct to begin with. > > John Rodgers > Clayartist and Moldmaker > 88'GL VW Bus Driver > Chelsea, AL > Http://www.moldhaus.com <http://www.moldhaus.com/> > > > > On 4/19/2010 11:18 AM, Don Hanson wrote: > >> My first 'longer' trip in my 84 (with an inline 4 Golf Jetta motor) >> since >> around Xmas. I've been driving it, after letting it stand for a few >> months, >> for a month now on shorter trips. Everything seems fine, no poor running >> or >> power loss, no strange behavior at all... >> >> I may be 'gunshy' now or perhaps overly-concerned for no real reason but >> when I first got this van, I caused myself some extra work because I was >> unfamiliar with the WBX cooling system. I didn't get a proper air-bleed >> after flushing the coolant for new..This resulted in some odd temperature >> behavior issues that I didn't 'pick up' on until I had damaged my >> headgasket. I had to replace the headgasket on the I-4 motor, no big >> deal..about 3-4hrs only, but I could have done BIG harm if I'd ignored >> it...thanks to the list I caught it in time to avoid major damage..So now >> I've learned to pay close attention to how my WBX cooling system (the I-4 >> plugs almost directly into the stock vanagon 'circulatory system') is >> behaving. >> >> Yesterday I did about 250 miles around Mt Hood going to and from a bike >> race and I noticed my temperature gauge was reading slightly lower than >> usual. I put a tank of premium fuel into the van and that is what I was >> burning on this trip, if that would make a difference. >> >> My temp gauge usually reads on or just slightly above the second of the >> bottom two marks...below that LED. Yesterday I was seeing the needle >> just >> above the bottom of those two lines, even when climbing to ~5000'...until >> I >> got back to low elevation when I noticed it back nearly to where it always >> has been...Some fluctuations in the reading...Not a fluttering of the >> needle, the gauge looks to be operating normally...but the needle would >> move, over a 10-20min period from quite cool to where it normally has run >> and maybe fall again...So my gauge is showing 'system running very >> slightly >> cooler than normal' >> >> When I got home I went back and opened the license plate to check my >> coolant overflow tank level. It was over-full and poured out about a cup >> of >> coolant when I removed the cap...So I opened her up to check the pressure >> tank...No air in there. The coolant looks normal, also..no combustion by >> products are evident. Water pump feels fine, though I didn't take off the >> drive belt and spin it...Next, I went to the air bleed screw in the rad. >> It >> took about a cup of coolant, added right into the bleed screw hole, as >> I've >> devised as 'my' method of getting the last air bubble out of my radiator. >> >> So what would cause my coolant to 'migrate' from the pressurized cooling >> system into that overflow tank? and should I be concerned? It's not >> running out of the Normal temp range, but pretty close to 'too cool'... >> any >> change in operating temp is alarming to me, since when my first problem >> happened, the symptoms were 'cold air from the heater' and the temp gauge >> behaving quite erratically... >> >> Don Hanson >> >> >> >> > >
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