

| Subject: | Re: Over-full overflow tank..cause for alarm? |
| From: | John Rodgers |
| Date: | Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:55:56 -0500 |
Be careful of the source of your new thermostat. Some fit, some don't, even though the parts catalogs say they will. Just kinda like oil filters - catalogs say their brand(whatever brand it is) is made for the Vanagon - but it doesn't work. Mahle and Mann are the best - though there are a couple of others that may work - same with thermostats - but most don't. John Rodgers Clayartist and Moldmaker 88'GL VW Bus Driver Chelsea, AL Http://www.moldhaus.com On 4/19/2010 1:18 PM, Don Hanson wrote: > Thanks everyone... I ordered a new expansion tank cap and my hose is a bit > crummy. I will replace that as well..sounds like exactly what I am seeing. > Also, new thermostat going in....just because... > Don Hanson > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM, John Rodgers<inua@charter.net> wrote: > > >> Don, >> >> Varying road conditions will result in variations of the temp needle >> position. I seem to have read somewhere that the pressure cap is set at 1 >> atmosphere - which is essentially 15 psi at sea level. Expect any change in >> altitude to result in migration of coolant from the expansion tank to the >> overflow tank. If the pressure cap is working properly and there are no >> leaks or holes in the tubing between the expansion tank and the overflow >> tank - then the coolant should be drawn back into the expansion tank as the >> coolant loses heat. While the over flow tank does have high level marks, if >> trouble shooting, it is better to check absolute coolant level by first >> allowing the engine to cool. Coolant should draw down to the bottom mark. If >> not, then there is a problem - assuming the level was correct to begin with. >> >> John Rodgers >> Clayartist and Moldmaker >> 88'GL VW Bus Driver >> Chelsea, AL >> Http://www.moldhaus.com<http://www.moldhaus.com/> >> >> >> >> On 4/19/2010 11:18 AM, Don Hanson wrote: >> >> >>> My first 'longer' trip in my 84 (with an inline 4 Golf Jetta motor) >>> since >>> around Xmas. I've been driving it, after letting it stand for a few >>> months, >>> for a month now on shorter trips. Everything seems fine, no poor running >>> or >>> power loss, no strange behavior at all... >>> >>> I may be 'gunshy' now or perhaps overly-concerned for no real reason but >>> when I first got this van, I caused myself some extra work because I was >>> unfamiliar with the WBX cooling system. I didn't get a proper air-bleed >>> after flushing the coolant for new..This resulted in some odd temperature >>> behavior issues that I didn't 'pick up' on until I had damaged my >>> headgasket. I had to replace the headgasket on the I-4 motor, no big >>> deal..about 3-4hrs only, but I could have done BIG harm if I'd ignored >>> it...thanks to the list I caught it in time to avoid major damage..So now >>> I've learned to pay close attention to how my WBX cooling system (the I-4 >>> plugs almost directly into the stock vanagon 'circulatory system') is >>> behaving. >>> >>> Yesterday I did about 250 miles around Mt Hood going to and from a bike >>> race and I noticed my temperature gauge was reading slightly lower than >>> usual. I put a tank of premium fuel into the van and that is what I was >>> burning on this trip, if that would make a difference. >>> >>> My temp gauge usually reads on or just slightly above the second of the >>> bottom two marks...below that LED. Yesterday I was seeing the needle >>> just >>> above the bottom of those two lines, even when climbing to ~5000'...until >>> I >>> got back to low elevation when I noticed it back nearly to where it always >>> has been...Some fluctuations in the reading...Not a fluttering of the >>> needle, the gauge looks to be operating normally...but the needle would >>> move, over a 10-20min period from quite cool to where it normally has run >>> and maybe fall again...So my gauge is showing 'system running very >>> slightly >>> cooler than normal' >>> >>> When I got home I went back and opened the license plate to check my >>> coolant overflow tank level. It was over-full and poured out about a cup >>> of >>> coolant when I removed the cap...So I opened her up to check the pressure >>> tank...No air in there. The coolant looks normal, also..no combustion by >>> products are evident. Water pump feels fine, though I didn't take off the >>> drive belt and spin it...Next, I went to the air bleed screw in the rad. >>> It >>> took about a cup of coolant, added right into the bleed screw hole, as >>> I've >>> devised as 'my' method of getting the last air bubble out of my radiator. >>> >>> So what would cause my coolant to 'migrate' from the pressurized cooling >>> system into that overflow tank? and should I be concerned? It's not >>> running out of the Normal temp range, but pretty close to 'too cool'... >>> any >>> change in operating temp is alarming to me, since when my first problem >>> happened, the symptoms were 'cold air from the heater' and the temp gauge >>> behaving quite erratically... >>> >>> Don Hanson >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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