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Subject:Re: Fire starter Fitting Strikes Again!
From:Scott Chapman
Date:Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:17:57 -0400

I'd suggest one high pressure line from fuel pump to the T at the engine
where the lines go to the injector rails.  That's what I did with mine.
Life is good.

Dennis Haynes wrote:
> The real problem with that fitting is that it is not visible or easily
> checked-tightened. A better fix is to replace the plastic tube from pump
> making it longer to reach into the engine compartment so a single clamp can
> be used and inspected.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> John Rodgers
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 5:56 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Firestarter Fitting Strikes Again!
>
> Congratulations on avoiding a fire!!  BTDT!!
>
> If that short piece of hose has not been replaced since one has acquired
> their van from a PO - the do it and do it NOW! Don't trust what ever the
> PO has to say about it. It simply is not worth the risk. And - I
> strongly recommend that while doing the replacement the hose simply be
> extended into the engine compartment and connected tot he fuel "T" over
> the engine - thus completely bypassing that stupid little fire hazard
> hardware. The only caution would be to ensure there is a chafing cover
> over the fuel line  to prevent rubbing against the underside of the
> little "firewall". One would not a hole to rub through a fuel line under
> 30 psi of pressure.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Rodgers
> Clayartist and Moldmaker
> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
> Chelsea, AL
> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>
>
> On 4/19/2010 4:12 PM, Bill Shawley wrote:
>
>> 1,200 miles into our southeastern road trip I ran into problems.  Early on
>>
> I had to remove the power steering pump due to a rack leak, no biggie except
> in parking lots.  Made it to Florida and up through Georgia no problems at
> all.  Stayed the night Commerce, GA and my wife wanted to hit the outlet
> stores before we headed out for Rock Hill.  As we get out of the van we both
> smell some gas, I'm ready to blame the Jeep next to us but my wife smells it
> pretty strong near the rear.  I peek under and see a small drip near the
> starter.
>
>>
>> Mind you I've done the tank seal dance a month ago and inspection of my
>>
> fuel line was done few times with the BMW hose being in place in most
> sections.  (telling me the P.O. took care of this), I always peak under the
> van after stopping somewhere to check for drips.  I've been rolling with a
> few feet of FI hose and some clamps in my van for a few years.
>
>>
>> After I sent my wife on a shopping spree I pulled around the back of the
>>
> outlet center and got to work, I immediately saw the the culprit as the
> short piece going to th "firestarteter" fitting wet.  It took me 40 minutes
> to replace the hose section however I was bummed to find out I had
> "borrowed" most of my FI clamps for something else and had to use the
> wormgear clamps for now.  I guess when I get back PA I know what I need to
> do!
>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/9309453@N08/4536063290/
>>
>>
>>
>> If you want to see the bad chunk of hose.  I thin I will eliminate the
>>
> fitting once I replace all the hose.  So even though I think I did
> everything a reasonable and average person would do, I was very close to
> becoming a casualty of the Vanagon fuel lines.  At the very least make sure
> you carry some FI line with you and clamps so you can repair on the side of
> the road if necessary (or have the stuff handy for someone to do for you),
> also locate this fitting on your van so you know where to look if you smell
> gas.
>
>>
>> I'm in Rock Hill SC now without any signs of fuel leak or fumes (still
>>
> have manual steering!), and I'm feeling good about getting home without any
> issues.
>
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
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