

| Subject: | Re: Massive Maintenance and cost |
| From: | miguel pacheco |
| Date: | Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:22:30 -0600 |
Dear Snarky, she's underpowered and her head leaks, but she's the one I love the most................. Miguel I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. - Thomas A. Edison On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Arkady Mirvis <arkadymirvis@gmail.com> wrote: > Tom had it right. But why do all we Vanagonauts are busy and worry? German > quality sucks since the end of Beetle era. > I wish the handtwisting, neckgrabbing Americans are enjoying doing to Toyota > will be applied to german made cars which for a long time are far > qualitywise behind cars of Japan in Consumer Reports. As a lifelong > manufacturing engineer I invite to get a closer look and compare japanese > quality to the german one and see how far inferior the latter one is. German > cars are high maintenance vehicles. I've seen japanese cars where rubber > parts look new after 25-30 years. In my 87 Westy all bellows are cracked. > Pay attention to JAPANESE electrical work. > Vanagon became a joke. Underpowered, head leaking the coolant, window motors > failing, wires in harness door-body breaking, famous fire starting fitting > breaking, rotting exhaust ..... and on and on. Continental original tires > developed serious cracks on shoulders after 8,000 miles. I thought that the > spare which didn't see the sun will be better. It was almost same condition. > The rubber ages before the eyes! Nothing to brag about. Ark. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Hargrave" <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:25 PM > Subject: Now Preventative Maintenance, Was Do U carry spare ECU? > > > I quit carrying spares & tool boxes over 20 years ago. I decided I was > "failing to plan" which kind of leads to "planning to fail". Also, I've > driven 40,000 - 55,000 miles / year over the past 10 years, most of these > miles in what most would consider old cars. > > But there is a method to my madness. I'm under the hood of my cars a lot. > Also, I replace items like belts & hoses & coolant & brake fluid & brakes & > tires when they should be serviced & not when they fail. Then I throw these > old parts out because there is no need for a old spare unless the one on the > car is about to fail. One other note - I replace belts & hoses with good > parts, not the cheap $4.00 crap from the local McParts store. I believe the > last Gates Green Stripe V belt I bought cost me $18.00 from NAPA while the > "supposedly" identical belt from a AutoZone or Advance Auto was in the $4.00 > range. > > I also inspect starters & alternators for brush wear. And I replace or > inspect other accessory items when they rack up a lot of miles. > > Your ECU should fall in the inspect & repair / replace category. Disassemble > it once every 10K miles & look at the wear stripe in the carbon. If it shows > a lot of wear then relocate the wiper BEFORE IT FAILS. If you don't do this > then you are "planning to fail" like I used to do 20 something years ago. > > This may seem like a lot of work but it's nice to know that you can take off > on a long trip in a vehicle with over 200,000 miles on the clock and expect > to arrive at the other end with no issues. > > I have had some road failures but with one exception, none were in my > control and none could be fixed on the side of the road or with tools you'd > usually carry in a toolbox. The one exception was the alternator in my 87 > Mercedes 300SDL - the rear bearing locked up. But even with the alternator, > I borrowed what I needed from AutoZone. > > > Tom > www.kegkits.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of > miguel pacheco > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:35 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Do U carry spare ECU? > > Jim, in your case, not having the part you needed in a breakdown, would make > a far more interesting story. How about it, has it ever happened? > You carry far more than I do, and I'm pretty well equipped. > Miguel > > I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. > - Thomas A. Edison > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Yep,spare 1.9 ECU (replaced one in Adrian, TX off I-40 several years >> ago coming back from Tennessee to SoCal). Plus a starter (replaced >> that on another trip coming back from Tennessee to So Cal 3 yrs ago), >> extra hard start relay (I have this installed on all VWs I own and >> just installed one on the 914 this past week), alternator (replaced >> that about 8 years ago in Turlock, CA rest stop - only 20 minutes to >> do that!), two distributors, water pump, thermostat w/O-Ring, AFM, >> master cylinder, accel cable, ignition switch (electrical part [gave >> one away to Bev at the Buses By The Bridge event a few years ago] and >> lock cylinder), fuel pump (replaced that a couple of years ago on a >> Jerome Jamboree trip in the middle of 100+ degree heat under an >> overpass on I-10 about 25 miles east of Quartzsite, AZ), fuel filters >> (both square pre filter and cannister filter), fuel pressure >> regulator, plugs, rotor, cap, hall unit, ICU, spark plug wire set, >> coolant ECU sensor, assorted FI connectors w/pigtails, 2 meters of 7mm >> fuel hose, 2 meters of 3.5mm vacuum hose, lotsa appropriate clamps, >> assorted bulbs and the list goes on and on and on....Very well >> equipped multi-drawer toolbox that would normally go on top of a >> roll-away - this sits on the floor directly behind the passenger seat. >> When you live full time in a Westy, it's best to be prepared for most >> contingencies :) >> -- >> Jim Thompson >> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria" >> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" >> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" >> 75 914 1.8 (No Name Yet) >> Full Timing Since March 1999 >> oldvolkshome@gmail.com >> http://www.oldvolkshome.com >> *********************************** >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:59 AM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote: >> >>> On the weekend I got a call from a friend in trouble. He had taken a >>> group of people up to a lake a few hours from home, using his 86 GL >>> as a tour bus. Everything went fine and they made it up the 5000' >>> mountain without incident. After unloading he decided to park in a >>> different spot and the van would crank fine but not start. >>> >>> He checked for spark, ouch, a-ok. >>> He had just filled the tank, so plenty of gas, bad fuel? >>> He bought some starting fluid and it fired right up and quickly died, >>> each time he sprayed. >>> He changed the fuel filter, no joy. >>> He pulled the injectors from one side, no fuel spraying, aha! >>> Pulled a fuel line loose, cranked, plenty of flow. >>> He pinched the return line shut, cranked, still no spray at injectors >>> but a new leak showed in a line. >>> Bought an injector noid light, noid light blinked during cranking. >>> I told him the ECU could still be at fault, strong enough injector >>> pulses to blink the noid light but not enough juice to fire the >>> injectors? >>> AAA called, made it home by tow truck. >>> Installed his spare ECU from his Westy under bench storage, fired right >>> up! >>> >>> Mark >>> >> >
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