I'd love to see what this "simplified" hall unit/sender looks like and what
the manufacturer's number is (Bosch or whoever).  I have no references in my
current Bosch stuff pointing to this kind of hall unit for the Vanagon 2.1
distributor.  VW & Bosch continues to list the 1237 010 039 (VW
052-998-065) as the current replacement for all 2.1 dizzys.

Don't pull yours apart to photo - you've had enough aggravation ;)

What & where is this brand/outfit that provides these rebuilt units?

Good thing this issue was solved and yer back runnin'
--
Jim Thompson
84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
75 914 1.8 (No Name Yet)
Full Timing Since March 1999
oldvolkshome@gmail.com
http://www.oldvolkshome.com
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On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Apparently, 'new' rebuilt distributors for the 2.1L have the
> simplified hall sender, only having hardware on the plug side.  The vendor
> double-checked their stock of distributors and all have this new style.
>
> My non-starting problem after installing the new distributor was that I
> hadn't set cylinder one to TDC and adjusted the position of the distributor
> to match so it would fire on that cylinder.  Did this per vendor's
> instructions and she fired right up!
>
> ...wonder if stumbling issue will be gone now, heh...
>
> Thanks for all the help!
>
>
>  *From:* Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@gmail.com>
>  *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:13 AM
> *To:* Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com ; Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@comcast.net>
>   *Subject:* Re: New distributor missing hall sender?
>
> Hi Todd -
>
> Looked at the 1237 010 039 this morning and it looks exactly like the 1237
> 010 027 that would have been originally equipped, so I have to agree with
> Ken that the wrong Hall Unit may have been installed by the so-called
> rebuilder.  Download and print the photo from the Airhead link I gave you
> last night, take that and the distributor back to the supply and show them
> the problem.
> --
> Jim Thompson
> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
> 75 914 1.8 (No Name Yet)
> Full Timing Since March 1999
> oldvolkshome@gmail.com
> http://www.oldvolkshome.com
> ***********************************
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Exactly - that is what I was expecting to see under the rotating piece!
>> Much appreciated.
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 19, 2010 8:37 PM
>> *To:* Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com>
>> *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com ; Jim At KGPR <jim@karmannghia.com>
>>   *Subject:* Re: New distributor missing hall sender?
>>
>> Todd -
>>
>> That's very possible.  As noted in my previous post, Bosch superseded the
>> hall unit last year and *may not* require/have that extra piece I see in the
>> photo provided.
>>
>> Look at the photo at this link:
>>
>> http://www.airheadparts.com/viewDetail.asp?strMasterCat=&idproduct=6777
>>
>> That is the original style 1237 010 027 hall unit.  Personally I have not
>> seen the superseded unit (1237 010 039), but I'll make a note to do so
>> tomorrow morning (note the additional CC to remind me when I go in tomorrow
>> morning).
>>
>> Thanx for the additional photo.
>> --
>> Jim Thompson
>> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
>> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
>> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
>> 75 914 1.8 (No Name Yet)
>> Full Timing Since March 1999
>> oldvolkshome@gmail.com
>> http://www.oldvolkshome.com
>> ***********************************
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Thanks Jim.  Hmmm, maybe the hall sender is just a different form
>>> factor than the one I removed?  The former was using all the screw holes
>>> under the rotating stator piece and there is a lot more 'hardware' under
>>> there.  Pics of that one (before removal) here:
>>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1u85hy5mHGKX_61okvpmUoPPzRFRdLRTF6I6HHY68qY?feat=directlink
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 19, 2010 8:21 PM
>>> *To:* Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: New distributor missing hall sender?
>>>
>>> The rest of the hall unit is under the rotating stator piece.  remove the
>>> retaining circlip, then the stator (mark its position first) and it should
>>> be there.  The black connecting piece on the side of the distributor is the
>>> exposed half of the hall unit (or should be).  Bosch 1237 010 039 (formerly
>>> 1237 010 027).
>>> --
>>> Jim Thompson
>>> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
>>> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
>>> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
>>> 75 914 1.8 (No Name Yet)
>>> Full Timing Since March 1999
>>> oldvolkshome@gmail.com
>>> http://www.oldvolkshome.com
>>> ***********************************
>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just received/installed a 'new' distributor from one of our vendors and
>>>> the van just won't turn over.  Popped the cap, rotor, dust cap off and...am
>>>> I wrong...is the hall sender missing??!  I assume a 'new' rebuilt
>>>> distributor would come complete with everything.  Have a look, and thanks!
>>>>
>>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/dermultivan/NewDistributor?feat=directlink
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>> 91 Weekender
>>>>
>>>