

| Subject: | Re: Water Cooler System Design Flaw Workaround? |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:45:10 -0700 |
well, that is very interesting about the phono needle. no wonder those grooves wore out ! and the phono needle is an example of something I find noteworthy and useful in Vanagon diagnostics....namely 'wherever there is an interface between something electrical or electronic, and something mechanical.........that's a weak spot. ' - like the sweeper arm in the AFM ( care to calculate the psi on that ? ! lol ) somehow ....with only 4 studs per cylinder with nuts at 37 ft lbs... it still does not seem like there is a lot of force involved on combustion sealing in waterboxer engines. and they do fail to work at times after all. but I get your point and calculations of course ! not talking about diesels here of course....but when I got a Mercedes 240D and had the head off... I think that head...........a cast iron head too... was held down with 20 studs with nuts on top of the studs. Looking at that ... and considering it usses a nice robust double row timing chain ... you just know 'no way is that going to blow, or leak, or let loose in any way, for a long, long time. A hose blowing out is about all I could imagine keeping the car from running for the first at least 100,000 miles, maybe up to 150K miles. I value Durabilty very highly in any mechanical device. Sheer durability , longevity, and reliability . ...those are the design goals to me. and funny thing about CD audio and DVD discs ....right away you go......fantastic sound, and no physical contact ..hot dog ! and yet...somehow those discs mess up too. The chip though ....those seem bacially without fault, more or less. And they get better all the time. And what a chip can do ......which is the equivlant of what a 60's era computer needed a whole room , or several to do ... man is that a miracle or what ! Can't even imagine how they do that . And darn durable too. It won't be too long before chips are embedded in people's brains ...or wait ! ...maybe they already are some and we don't know it ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Beierl" <dbeierl@attglobal.net> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:25 PM Subject: Re: Water Cooler System Design Flaw Workaround? > At 04:25 PM 4/22/2010, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: >>and the heads are not held down by a lot of force, just 8 studs per head, >>with nuts torqued to 37 ft lbs. > > But if you take into account the very small area of the sealing rings > compared to the area of an I-4 head gasket, you'll see there is lots of > pressure (psi) on those rings. For comparison (for the older amongst us) > an elliptical needle tracking at two grams on an LP (vinyl) record exerts > something like 150,000 psi on the record at the points where it touches. > > Yrs, > D
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