

| Subject: | Re: catalytic heaters in campers |
| From: | Jim Felder |
| Date: | Mon, 3 May 2010 19:12:42 -0500 |
Here you go. Let me know if you want installation details. <http://www.rvstuffusa.com/wave3catalyticsafetyheaterbyolympian.html> Jim On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:12 PM, <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote: > Jim, where is this marvel described, available? �Thanks, David > > ---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> This has been commented on so many times... >> >> Not all calalytic heaters are created equal. Some consume much more >> oxygen per BTU than others. Those that do not only compete more with >> the oxygen that the westy's occupants need, but they leave a lot more >> sweat on the flocked ceiling and everywhere else. >> >> Some heaters are made to stand on spindly little legs and can get >> kicked over. Others are made to mount permanently to a chosen >> location. Those can't get kicked over, and since everyone always knows >> exactly where will be located at all times, it becomes easier to avoid >> getting something too close to them. >> >> The Olympian Wave III heater embodies the best of these >> characteristics, IMHO. It is the size of a sheet of paper and less >> than two inches thick. It can be mounted on the bulkhead behind the >> passenger seat, facing into the cabin (to name one popular location). >> It can be permanently plumbed with its own shutoff valve at the tank, >> as mine is. >> >> It doesn't produce much condensation. It doesn't use much oxygen. With >> the top up, the breathing of the stock canvas provides plenty of >> oxygen-carbon dioxide exchange. With the top down, cracking a window >> to achieve the specified four square inches has never been a problem. >> >> Just one thing... don't allow a sleeping bag to flop over on it, or >> the convection from the heat will fill a westy interior with goose >> down in five seconds. Don't ask me how I know. >> >> Oh, and unlike the furnace, it uses no electricity. >> >> For those with the money, the battery, and the space to give up, one >> of those plumbed-to-the-outside furnaces sounds great. But my little >> Olympian sure is an efficient little appliance. >> >> Jim >> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote: >> > I think that because of the limited space, the only really safe solution is a heater that vents to the outside world or a electric heater that runs off site power. >> > >> > Tom >> > www.stir-plate.com >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely >> > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:02 PM >> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> > Subject: Re: catalytic heaters in campers >> > >> > Even if the oxygen depletion, CO problems were non-existent, how do you use a heater in a VW camper safely so far as the fire issue is concerned? �Where can you put it and provide the necessary clearance and be sure you won't get up in the night and bump it? �Seems a pretty risky device to me. �DMc >> > >> > ---- W Monk <billmonk@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> Another huge issue with the Mr.Heaters is the amount of moisture that >> >> they generate. Use one for awhile and see how much more condensation >> >> collects on your windows and the flocking on the underside of your >> >> poptop. I still say that my propex even though expensive was the best >> >> comfort item we have purchased so far. I did install an Atwood furnace >> >> into a friends Vanagon and it was less than half the price of a >> >> propex. Installation was more complicated,draws more 12v power,but the >> >> btu's were double if not triple what my propex is. Can't recall the >> >> exact numbers right now. I will say that I tried a Mr. Heater before >> >> the propex but like I mentioned above the moisture was overbearing and >> >> I would not sleep with it lit. I have seen more than one "safety" >> >> sensor fail on various products costing thousands more than the >> >> Mr.Heater. Just don't trust it. >> >> >> >> >> >> B >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Geo <ahwahneevw@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On 5/3/10, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote: >> >> > > The current versions of Mr. Heater have an oxygen sensor that >> >> > > shuts the device down before the mixture changes enough to >> >> > > generate significant amounts of CO... >> >> > >> >> > I have heard that the safety feature can be fooled by the reduced O2 >> >> > encountered above 9000' or so. �Anyone had experience with this? >> >> > >> >> > Yes, I do often camp above 9K' and, of course, that is just when a >> >> > heater is most welcome. >> >> > >> >> > Currently I use the simple Coleman catalytic with the battery >> >> > operated fan but only when I am up & awake and (as noted) the Westy >> >> > is leaky plus easy top venting thru the roof vent. >> >> > >> >> > Geo >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > David McNeely >> > > > -- > David McNeely >
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