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Subject:Re: catalytic heaters in campers
From:Karl Ploessl
Date:Mon, 3 May 2010 20:33:20 -0400

just don't buy from that site if you want to save some $$. Checkout amazo:;
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-57331-Olympian-Wave-3-Catalytic/dp/B000BUV1RK/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1272933039&sr=8-1-fkmr0
$198 vs $288

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here you go. Let me know if you want installation details.
>
> <http://www.rvstuffusa.com/wave3catalyticsafetyheaterbyolympian.html>
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:12 PM, �<mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>> Jim, where is this marvel described, available? �Thanks, David
>>
>> ---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> This has been commented on so many times...
>>>
>>> Not all calalytic heaters are created equal. Some consume much more
>>> oxygen per BTU than others. Those that do not only compete more with
>>> the oxygen that the westy's occupants need, but they leave a lot more
>>> sweat on the flocked ceiling and everywhere else.
>>>
>>> Some heaters are made to stand on spindly little legs and can get
>>> kicked over. Others are made to mount permanently to a chosen
>>> location. Those can't get kicked over, and since everyone always knows
>>> exactly where will be located at all times, it becomes easier to avoid
>>> getting something too close to them.
>>>
>>> The Olympian Wave III heater embodies the best of these
>>> characteristics, IMHO. It is the size of a sheet of paper and less
>>> than two inches thick. It can be mounted on the bulkhead behind the
>>> passenger seat, facing into the cabin (to name one popular location).
>>> It can be permanently plumbed with its own shutoff valve at the tank,
>>> as mine is.
>>>
>>> It doesn't produce much condensation. It doesn't use much oxygen. With
>>> the top up, the breathing of the stock canvas provides plenty of
>>> oxygen-carbon dioxide exchange. With the top down, cracking a window
>>> to achieve the specified four square inches has never been a problem.
>>>
>>> Just one thing... don't allow a sleeping bag to flop over on it, or
>>> the convection from the heat will fill a westy interior with goose
>>> down in five seconds. Don't ask me how I know.
>>>
>>> Oh, and unlike the furnace, it uses no electricity.
>>>
>>> For those with the money, the battery, and the space to give up, one
>>> of those plumbed-to-the-outside furnaces sounds great. But my little
>>> Olympian sure is an efficient little appliance.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>>> > I think that because of the limited space, the only really safe solution is a heater that vents to the outside world or a electric heater that runs off site power.
>>> >
>>> > Tom
>>> > www.stir-plate.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely
>>> > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:02 PM
>>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> > Subject: Re: catalytic heaters in campers
>>> >
>>> > Even if the oxygen depletion, CO problems were non-existent, how do you use a heater in a VW camper safely so far as the fire issue is concerned? �Where can you put it and provide the necessary clearance and be sure you won't get up in the night and bump it? �Seems a pretty risky device to me. �DMc
>>> >
>>> > ---- W Monk <billmonk@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> >> Another huge issue with the Mr.Heaters is the amount of moisture that
>>> >> they generate. Use one for awhile and see how much more condensation
>>> >> collects on your windows and the flocking on the underside of your
>>> >> poptop. I still say that my propex even though expensive was the best
>>> >> comfort item we have purchased so far. I did install an Atwood furnace
>>> >> into a friends Vanagon and it was less than half the price of a
>>> >> propex. Installation was more complicated,draws more 12v power,but the
>>> >> btu's were double if not triple what my propex is. Can't recall the
>>> >> exact numbers right now. I will say that I tried a Mr. Heater before
>>> >> the propex but like I mentioned above the moisture was overbearing and
>>> >> I would not sleep with it lit. I have seen more than one "safety"
>>> >> sensor fail on various products costing thousands more than the
>>> >> Mr.Heater. Just don't trust it.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> B
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Geo <ahwahneevw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > On 5/3/10, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>> >> > > The current versions of Mr. Heater have an oxygen sensor that
>>> >> > > shuts the device down before the mixture changes enough to
>>> >> > > generate significant amounts of CO...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have heard that the safety feature can be fooled by the reduced O2
>>> >> > encountered above 9000' or so. �Anyone had experience with this?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yes, I do often camp above 9K' and, of course, that is just when a
>>> >> > heater is most welcome.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Currently I use the simple Coleman catalytic with the battery
>>> >> > operated fan but only when I am up & awake and (as noted) the Westy
>>> >> > is leaky plus easy top venting thru the roof vent.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Geo
>>> >> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > David McNeely
>>> >
>>
>> --
>> David McNeely
>>
>

-- 
Karl
1981 VW Westy "Jenny"
2000 VW Jetta GLS VR6
Wilmington, DE