

| Subject: | Re: catalytic heaters in campers |
| From: | Jim Felder |
| Date: | Mon, 3 May 2010 19:36:27 -0500 |
Yes, I meant to mention that. I got mine for around 215 on ebay about five years ago. There's no reason to pay the $300 as Karl says. Jim On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Karl Ploessl <karl.ploessl@gmail.com> wrote: > just don't buy from that site if you want to save some $$. Checkout amazo:; > http://www.amazon.com/Camco-57331-Olympian-Wave-3-Catalytic/dp/B000BUV1RK/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1272933039&sr=8-1-fkmr0 > $198 vs $288 > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: >> Here you go. Let me know if you want installation details. >> >> <http://www.rvstuffusa.com/wave3catalyticsafetyheaterbyolympian.html> >> >> Jim >> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:12 PM, �<mcneely4@cox.net> wrote: >>> Jim, where is this marvel described, available? �Thanks, David >>> >>> ---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>>> This has been commented on so many times... >>>> >>>> Not all calalytic heaters are created equal. Some consume much more >>>> oxygen per BTU than others. Those that do not only compete more with >>>> the oxygen that the westy's occupants need, but they leave a lot more >>>> sweat on the flocked ceiling and everywhere else. >>>> >>>> Some heaters are made to stand on spindly little legs and can get >>>> kicked over. Others are made to mount permanently to a chosen >>>> location. Those can't get kicked over, and since everyone always knows >>>> exactly where will be located at all times, it becomes easier to avoid >>>> getting something too close to them. >>>> >>>> The Olympian Wave III heater embodies the best of these >>>> characteristics, IMHO. It is the size of a sheet of paper and less >>>> than two inches thick. It can be mounted on the bulkhead behind the >>>> passenger seat, facing into the cabin (to name one popular location). >>>> It can be permanently plumbed with its own shutoff valve at the tank, >>>> as mine is. >>>> >>>> It doesn't produce much condensation. It doesn't use much oxygen. With >>>> the top up, the breathing of the stock canvas provides plenty of >>>> oxygen-carbon dioxide exchange. With the top down, cracking a window >>>> to achieve the specified four square inches has never been a problem. >>>> >>>> Just one thing... don't allow a sleeping bag to flop over on it, or >>>> the convection from the heat will fill a westy interior with goose >>>> down in five seconds. Don't ask me how I know. >>>> >>>> Oh, and unlike the furnace, it uses no electricity. >>>> >>>> For those with the money, the battery, and the space to give up, one >>>> of those plumbed-to-the-outside furnaces sounds great. But my little >>>> Olympian sure is an efficient little appliance. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote: >>>> > I think that because of the limited space, the only really safe solution is a heater that vents to the outside world or a electric heater that runs off site power. >>>> > >>>> > Tom >>>> > www.stir-plate.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely >>>> > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:02 PM >>>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>> > Subject: Re: catalytic heaters in campers >>>> > >>>> > Even if the oxygen depletion, CO problems were non-existent, how do you use a heater in a VW camper safely so far as the fire issue is concerned? �Where can you put it and provide the necessary clearance and be sure you won't get up in the night and bump it? �Seems a pretty risky device to me. �DMc >>>> > >>>> > ---- W Monk <billmonk@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>>> >> Another huge issue with the Mr.Heaters is the amount of moisture that >>>> >> they generate. Use one for awhile and see how much more condensation >>>> >> collects on your windows and the flocking on the underside of your >>>> >> poptop. I still say that my propex even though expensive was the best >>>> >> comfort item we have purchased so far. I did install an Atwood furnace >>>> >> into a friends Vanagon and it was less than half the price of a >>>> >> propex. Installation was more complicated,draws more 12v power,but the >>>> >> btu's were double if not triple what my propex is. Can't recall the >>>> >> exact numbers right now. I will say that I tried a Mr. Heater before >>>> >> the propex but like I mentioned above the moisture was overbearing and >>>> >> I would not sleep with it lit. I have seen more than one "safety" >>>> >> sensor fail on various products costing thousands more than the >>>> >> Mr.Heater. Just don't trust it. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> B >>>> >> >>>> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Geo <ahwahneevw@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> > On 5/3/10, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >> > > The current versions of Mr. Heater have an oxygen sensor that >>>> >> > > shuts the device down before the mixture changes enough to >>>> >> > > generate significant amounts of CO... >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I have heard that the safety feature can be fooled by the reduced O2 >>>> >> > encountered above 9000' or so. �Anyone had experience with this? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Yes, I do often camp above 9K' and, of course, that is just when a >>>> >> > heater is most welcome. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Currently I use the simple Coleman catalytic with the battery >>>> >> > operated fan but only when I am up & awake and (as noted) the Westy >>>> >> > is leaky plus easy top venting thru the roof vent. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Geo >>>> >> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > David McNeely >>>> > >>> >>> -- >>> David McNeely >>> >> > > > > -- > Karl > 1981 VW Westy "Jenny" > 2000 VW Jetta GLS VR6 > Wilmington, DE >
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