

| Subject: | Re: Starts day, won't at night ... |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Tue, 4 May 2010 10:08:57 -0700 |
Here's how I like to operate the cold start valve on any old system like this one... - by manual push button. ( they operate o 12 volts ) Makes it into a 'primer' button... turn on the key, hold the button in say .....2 seconds, hit the starter .. catch it to fire up, taping the button a few times now and then for the first 20 seconds of running. works just great ! Got that working on a Mercedes 450SLC ( for sale too, cheap ) , wired to the washer button. And thank goodness waterboxers don't have cold start valves. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zoltan" <thewestyman@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:53 PM Subject: Re: Starts day, won't at night ... > So, this means, that the Thermo time switch measures ambient temp. and > activates accordingly. Is that right? I have tried to measure voltage > and > see if the test light comes up when cranking, as the Bentley says. I > guess, > there should be some voltage that would activate a little light bulb in my > tester, and would dim after a few seconds. > Is there any other way to test the TTS? Maybe with Ohm meter? Or > continuity tester? > Zoltan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Old Volks Home" <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:18 PM > Subject: Re: Starts day, won't at night ... > > >> To elaborate on Dennis' comment, sounds like the Thermotime Switch has >> gone >> bad. In cold weather (nights, mornings) under a certain ambient >> temperature >> (Bentley shows this and how to test one), it activates the cold start >> valve >> during the start cycle to richen the mixture. The cold start valve is >> told >> to shut off by the ECU when the engine fires up. >> >> Temp I or II have nothing to do with the Cold Start circuit. >> -- >> Jim Thompson >> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria" >> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" >> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" >> 75 914 1.8 (No Name Yet) >> Full Timing Since March 1999 >> oldvolkshome@gmail.com >> http://www.oldvolkshome.com >> *********************************** >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Dennis Haynes >> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote: >> >>> The air cooled engines have separate cold start injector which is >>> controlled >>> by the thermo-time switch. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >>> Of >>> Zoltan >>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:07 PM >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Subject: Starts day, won't at night ... >>> >>> As the headline says. This is a 1982 air-cooled van. Daytime, when >>> it's >>> a >>> little warmer, it starts right away. But somehow at night or early >>> morning, >>> when it's a little colder, it won't. >>> I know, there are two temp. sensors and usually the temp. II sensor is >>> the >>> one I would change. I just haven't experienced this kind of behavior. >>> Maybe none of you would know and send me a message about it, and I will >>> go >>> out and buy a Temp. II sensor and see if it works. But what if the >>> Temp. >>> I >>> (one) sensor is the one that is not working as it should? I never heard >>> of >>> that to be changed. >>> My respects to the List. >>> Zoltan >>>
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