You are correct, sir.  Wrong vehicle.

But something does _feel_ like the second butterfly.  I'll have to investigate
this weekend.  The idle speed switch isn't quite right and I'm getting bucking
with just a little throttle.  It was unsecured a few years ago and I just
patched it and don't remember what I did.  So I need to get into that area
anyway.

tom
K0TAR

On 11 May 2010 at 23:07, Jake de Villiers wrote:

> Uh, where is your 'second butterfly' located?  On the Vanagon?  ;)
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:06 PM, tom ring <taring@taring.org> wrote:
>
> > It's an 85 1.9 with about 104k on it.
> >
> > Drove it 30 miles at freeway speeds, 60 to 72, today and it was running
> > very
> > nice.  I could hold about 68 just touching the second butterfly.  Trying to
> > burn off about 3 gallons of 1 year old fuel mixed with fresh added up to
> > whatever the full tank holds.  Going to add a can of Sea Foam before a run
> > after work tomorrow.
> >
> > tom
> > K0TAR
> >
> > On 11 May 2010 at 13:07, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> >
> > > it's not a matter of is proper backpressure needed,
> > > but more that exhaust vales will burn after a while with an exhaust leak
> > > near that exhaust port,
> > >
> > > I don't see which engine Tom the question asker has ...
> > > but I'll say that I find slightly burnt or rough exhaust valves on
> > > waterboxer 2.1's all the time.
> > > it's normal even ..
> > > I go to do head gaskets, check the valves for leakage, and the exhaust
> > ones
> > > are usually a little leaky ..
> > > like doing 80 % of the sealing they should be doing.
> > >
> > > so given that, it's not that smart to run with significant exhaust system
> > > cracks or leaks.
> > > It  could even be a fire hazard.
> > > in any engine.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > www.turbovans.com
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "tom ring" <taring@TARING.ORG>
> > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:04 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Good local mechanic worked on my 85
> > >
> > >
> > > > And a question.  I have had a very minor to major break in the exhaust
> > for
> > > > a
> > > > few thousand miles.  The very minor was a lengthwise split about 2
> > inches
> > > > from
> > > > the head and extending for about an inch and a half.  That was around
> > in
> > > > somewhat patched to not patched for a couple cycles for about 5
> > thousand
> > > > miles.
> > > > The major was the driver side forward cylinder.  Broke at the flange.
> >  Bad
> > > > mojo.  20 miles home.
> > > >
> > > > Patched with the nasty white exhaust paste wrapped with the high temp
> > buck
> > > > a
> > > > foot exhaust wrap and then with steel fence wire with about 1/16 to 1/8
> > > > spacing.
> > > >
> > > > Lasted for 150 miles, almost all I needed last summer.
> > > >
> > > > So the question - is proper/even back pressure a critical thing on
> > these
> > > > engines?  Because this thing is more balanced cylinderwise and just in
> > > > general
> > > > than I remember.
> > > >
> > > > tom
> > > > K0TAR
> > > >
> > > > On 10 May 2010 at 21:27, tom ring wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Just had a local private mechanic install a new exhaust on an engine
> > that
> > > >> had
> > > >> at least 1 broken stud.  He removed and welded a couple other support
> > > >> bits
> > > >> during the job.  Replaced the oxy sensor with new.  Installed all new
> > > >> fuel
> > > >> lines and covered them with the old outside protective plastic
> > shrouds.
> > > >>
> > > >> I supplied the new exhaust kit and fuel line kit but nothing else.  He
> > > >> picked
> > > >> up the oxy sensor and replacement studs as well as a few other gaskets
> > > >> and
> > > >> bolts.
> > > >>
> > > >> Total bill - $330 including additional parts and shop.  I like
> > Westside
> > > >> VW, but
> > > >> this was a lot cheaper for 10 hours of work.
> > > >>
> > > >> He is in the Minneapolis metro if anyone is interested.  Contact me at
> > > >> the
> > > >> shown email address.
> > > >>
> > > >> tom
> > > >> K0TAR
> > > >>
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>
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