

| Subject: | Re: Odd bits of list wisdom and/was: RE: 91 Carat has the highway hick ups |
| From: | Michael Sullivan |
| Date: | Wed, 12 May 2010 19:57:02 -0500 |
My sentiments exactly. Your bro needs a whack in the sack IMO. Michael in San Antonio 91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo' 73 Beetle On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Robert Fisher <garciasghostvw@gmail.com>wrote: > --snip-- > as for air flow causing 02 sensors to get too cool while driving ... > well, first, speaking of heated or non-heated 02 sensors ? > and secondly .. > there are countless cars and car designs where the 02 sensor is exposed to > air flow, and they don't have problems, so I'm a little skeptical on that > one. > > Scott > > --snip > > >Often the > > first > > signs of a bad or weak sensor is fast idle during cold weather or just > > after > > highway travel. The test! Cycle the ignition switch of floor the > > accelerator. If either clears up the problem for a short while, O2 sensor > > is > > the issue. Note that the O2 sensors originally had a heat shield or > > insulation on them. > > > > Dennis > --snip-- > > I was driving back to SoCal from AZ after Thanksgiving, and we got into > rain/sleet going into Flag. Now we use our wipers so rarely here that you > basically have to look at them as "disposable" in the sense that they won't > survive from the end of one "rainy season" through the summer to the next > rainy season. You use them 3-4 times and then you have to pitch 'em. Add > the > local feral cats into the equation and the wipers just generally aren't in > great shape. > > I replaced my wiper blades in Cottonwood but forgot to pull the wiper arms > and reset them. We were just about into Flag when a semi blew by and > totally > dislocated my driver's wiper arm (again). I got out and relocated it but it > didn't hold, so I stopped under a canopy at a gas station there in Flag. My > brother was bitching and grumbling about how I was never going to get > anything to fix it with at that time of the evening when I pulled out the > 1/4" drive, a pick and a razor knife, put a socket on the drive and took > care of it. He couldn't believe it worked. Now I hadn't done that > particular > thing before but I remembered it from the list and knew I had the stuff to > do it; as I said I was going to do it in my Dad's driveway but just forgot. > > So off we go to Williams to blow the kid's minds on the Polar Express. > Major > Mommy and Daddy points, plus it started to snow like crazy right as we got > to the "North Pole" where Santa got on the train. It couldn't have been > better if we'd custom ordered it. > > We decided not to eat dinner in Williams because we were afraid of getting > snowed in. The snow was very wet and coming down hard, and though I like my > tires they're all-seasons and I wasn't prepared for that kind of driving, > and we wanted to get to Laughlin that night. > After maybe twenty minutes of driving the engine started bogging down badly > and it eventually died. I was rolling dead in the slow lane with idiots > flying past me like there isn't any weather at all, thinking about how fun > this is going to be dealing with this in a snowstorm at night in the middle > of nowhere with three hungry kids, etc. I turned the key back, which of > course killed the lights (scaring the crap out of everybody), and managed > to > crank the engine on again. Now my brother's bitching and grumbling again > about "this damn van" and generally crying doom and despair. > It ran for a few minutes and died. Cranked it up, ran for a little less > time > and died; rinse and repeat. At this point the snow was turning more to rain > so I found a wide spot in the road (Ash Fork?) with a funky little diner > and > pulled off. I thought about it over a couple of cups of decent coffee and a > pretty good bacon cheeseburger, and when we left I found another gas > station > canopy, pulled under it, got out, disconnected the O2 sensor (three wire, > no > shield) and drove the rest of the way to Laughlin and home without a hitch. > I had some fun chuckling at my brother, but of course he wasn't going to > give me the satisfaction of letting on that he was impressed or relieved or > anything. > > Now of course as far as I know the sensor was about to die anyway (it was > on > the van when I got it and I put some 15K on it I guess), but it had been > running normally until we had been in the rain/sleet/snow for that hour or > so of driving time; in fact it had been running normally until the temps > dropped and we starting getting the heavy snow after we left Williams. I > checked the connector when I unplugged it and it was dry, and when I > finally > pulled the sensor it was relatively clean and the threads weren't corroded > or anything, but that shield is missing. > > Of course an anecdote does not evidence make, but it's interesting how > often > Dennis' little caveats seem to nail it when things go wrong. I dunno if > I'll > ever have that happen again, but they put a shield on the sensor for a > reason, presumably, so I'd like to make or get one and put it on mine. > > Two other things: I was driving home from Mammoth on 395 and I had been > distracted from my normal dash-glancing by some guy that appeared to be > driving his semi half-asleep. When I looked down after several minutes I > saw > the battery light and the temp needle was climbing. I knew exactly what had > happened, instantly. I pulled off and two of the three belts were shredded > and the third was badly damaged. It took me longer to unload and reload the > camping stuff in the back (and to talk to the helpful CHP officer) than it > did to replace the belts. > Another time that I was in Laughlin the van started running badly after > warming up... I thought I knew what that was, and after perusing the > archives that I had on the laptop (thanks Wesley!), I ordered a Temp II > sensor (at a Checker's, of all places), got it the next morning and > replaced > it by the side of Lake Mohave while my wife and kids were swimming. > > That right there amounts to a whole bunch of time, money, worry and > headaches (and at least one blown engine) avoided just from being on this > list for seven years or whatever it's been now, and it doesn't account for > everything by a long stretch. I don't see how anybody can support this > particular habit without this list, other sites like the Samba > notwithstanding. They say it takes a village to raise a child, but it > definitely takes an international community to own a Vanagon. : ) > > Cya (and thanks), > Robert >
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