

| Subject: | Re: A/C work question |
| From: | Ry |
| Date: | Sat, 15 May 2010 10:06:07 -0500 |
Nevermind, I finally dug up a post on the samba. This is more for my future reference so that I can search my gmail if I forget this. *HIGH is behind the rear quarter panel, LOW is on the "J" pipe coming out of the top/back of the compressor.* after pulling a -1bar which I think is ~(29in.hg) began to fill system and compressor kicked on, was just about to start putting in second 12oz can when BAM steam and coolant comes from under the back seat. :( no fixie today, maybe NEXT month I'll get my a/c fixed....after replacing my heater hoses(and/or the control valve...orings...heater core) if it ain't one thing it's another. peace, -Ry http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote: > So I'm confused and feeling a little dumb at the moment about which port is > the High and which port is the Low pressure side. THe diagram in the > Bentley is not identical to how my 1991 Carat looks. > > What I believe based on my interpretation of the "not exactly like mine" > diagram in Bentley is that the port that is under the drivers side rear > quarter panel is the LOW pressure side and that the port on the "J" pipe > coming off the compressor is the HIGH side. Can anyone please confirm this > for me? I just want to be super sure. > > All o-rings replaced, new condenser and new dryer. > > Thanks > > -Ry > http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks. Good to know. I'll probably go ahead and disconnect since I have >> replacement hoses ready and waiting to be put on. Depends on how ambitious >> I get. :) >> >> -Ry >> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln >> >> >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Jake de Villiers < >> crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Ry, you don't have to disconnect the hoses to drop the rad - there's >>> plenty of length there - but you can if you want to. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks guys. Seems I'll be dropping the radiator at same time as >>>> condenser >>>> and replacing the two coolant hoses to it since I have them on hand. >>>> Seems >>>> the best time to do it is now. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> -Ry >>>> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Thanks Keith >>>> > >>>> > ---- Keith Hughes <keithahughes@q.com> wrote: >>>> > > On 5/13/2010 1:13 PM, mcneely4@cox.net wrote: >>>> > > > ---- Keith Hughes<keithahughes@Q.COM> wrote: >>>> > > > but you'd be miles >>>> > > > >>>> > > >> ahead if you replaced the stock condenser with a newer cross-flow >>>> > > >> style. The stock condensers are really inadequate for use with >>>> 134-A >>>> > if >>>> > > >> you live anywhere hot (like here in Phoenix AZ). You can get >>>> > conversion >>>> > > >> fittings/hoses and a new condenser for about the price of a new >>>> OEM >>>> > unit. >>>> > > >> >>>> > > > Keith, please tell us more about the "cross-flow" style condensor, >>>> such >>>> > as where to get it, and exactly how it is better than the original. I >>>> live >>>> > and travel in hot places, and I am converting my camper AC system to >>>> 134-A, >>>> > along with searching out a leak and hopefully repairing it. If I need >>>> a new >>>> > condenser, perhaps I should get one of these. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Thanks, David McNeely >>>> > > > >>>> > > David, >>>> > > >>>> > > The cross-flow styles are a combination series-parallel design that >>>> use >>>> > > higher surface area to internal volume tubes like the radiators do. >>>> > > They have multiple tubes paralleled together that dump into a common >>>> > > manifold that then does through a second set of paralleled tubes >>>> before >>>> > > exiting. The number of parallel/series modules depends on the size >>>> of >>>> > > the unit. In addition to the higher surface area, the flow rate in >>>> the >>>> > > tubes is significantly lower (multiple paths instead of one >>>> serpentine >>>> > > tube) allowing more residence time and greater heat transfer. They >>>> are >>>> > > typically made out of aluminum, and the biggest downside is that the >>>> > > tubes are quite small, and they cannot be effectively cleaned. The >>>> unit >>>> > > I used was under $100, so if it clogs, replacement won't break the >>>> bank. >>>> > > >>>> > > I got all my stuff from Arizona Mobile Air (www.ackits.com) since >>>> > > they're here in Phoenix, but there are a number of places on the web >>>> you >>>> > > can find similar units. Search for universal cross-flow condenser >>>> and >>>> > > you should find quite a variety. If you go that route, source out >>>> the >>>> > > largest you can find that'll fit, 'cause you'll need all the surface >>>> > > area you can get when you switch refrigerants. You might consider >>>> > > getting two 17W x 12H units (IIRC, the stock is 17W x 19H), and >>>> stacking >>>> > > them in series. You'll need a short connector hose fabricated, but >>>> that >>>> > > configuration will give you about the maximum size you can fit. I >>>> was >>>> > > never able to find a single unit that was the right size. I used a >>>> 17W >>>> > > x 15H unit which was the same surface area as the old one (I had the >>>> > > early split condenser - smaller than what you have), and the R-134A >>>> > > performance is slightly better than it was with R-12 and the old >>>> > > condenser. Next time I get ambitious, I'm changing out to the dual >>>> setup >>>> > > to increase capacity. I'd hate to see what the performance would >>>> have >>>> > > been with the old condenser. >>>> > > >>>> > > Keith Hughes >>>> > > '86 Westy Tiico (Marvin) >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > David McNeely >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jake >>> >>> 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX 'The Grey Van' >>> 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie' >>> >>> Crescent Beach, BC >>> >>> www.thebassspa.com >>> www.crescentbeachguitar.com >>> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27 >>> >>> >> >
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