Still having a problem logging in.  It comes back with invalid password.
The email address used should be greenamyer@yahoo.com.  I was able to set
the nomail command but I think that the email address is tied the the one I
am sending you this message from (wgreenamyer@ciso.com) since I keep all of
my logs and records at this email address.  I do most of my general email
activity at the yahoo email address.  I thought that the password was at
that email address but it doesn't appear to have taken for either email
address.

William

-----Original Message-----
From: L-Soft list server at Vanagon List (1.8d)
[mailto:LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:36 AM
To: William Greenamyer
Cc: Jim Arnott
Subject: You have been added to the vanagon list

Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:36:14

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