

| Subject: | Re: Big tools for your big nuts; now Vanagon Tools Rant |
| From: | Jake de Villiers |
| Date: | Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:54:39 -0700 |
Interesting that you bring up the old Canadian Tire tools Courtney. I am still using (I >just< replaced my steering rack) the little 3/8" drive Husky socket set I bought at the original Summerhill Canadian Tire Store 39 years ago to work on my '64 MGB! I am missing the 9mm socket because I hammered it onto the brake master of my '57 Chevy pickup ~30 years ago and I assume its still there! ;) On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Courtney Hook <courtneyhook@shaw.ca> wrote: > I'm with you Alistair; I have an old Rockwell drill that is bulletproof, > (literally, the case is made of alum. or steel, not plastic) and when you > pick it up it just feels right in your hand. Like a set of old Canadian > made > Gray ratchets and sockets. Super quality from the day of pre-computerized > milling machines I think. > Courtney > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Always be yourself, because the people that matter don't mind, > and the ones who mind, don't matter. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alistair Bell" <albell@SHAW.CA> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: Big tools for your big nuts; now Vanagon Tools Rant > > > better buy one of those american made computers too. >> >> :) >> >> >> judge the tool by how it works in practice. most modern handtools are >> not as nicely made nor finished as vintage ones. scour flea markets, >> build up a collection of tools that you actually like. I find that, >> with a few exceptions, I have a more "personal" relationship with >> tools that I have either inherited or found at garage sales than the >> ones I have bought new. >> And that means that I am more likely to clean them up and put them >> away properly. >> I have tools from all parts of the globe and my favourites are not >> all from one country or another. >> >> To make one specific observation, my US made tools are by and large >> old ones. I think the golden age of US tool making is long gone... a >> reflection of how machine trades are valued now. >> >> alistair >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 13-Jun-10, at 3:00 PM, Max Wellhouse wrote: >> >> Yeah, I first noticed that Porter Cable tools were overseas-produced >> a couple years ago, so I started buying Milwaukee Brand. My $230 18v >> Lithium Ion cordless drill was made over there. I discovered that >> and emailed the company and read them the riot act. I had the CSR >> calling my house(despite me not giving out my number) and emailing me >> explaining why it was a "business" decision to stay >> competitive. "But it's still made to our specifications", he >> quipped. Then I checked my Milwaukee orbital sander and guess >> what? It's overseas as well. >> >> I replied to the CSR via email that I';m not so much against a >> quality item being made overseas, but that they shouldn't use their >> trademark brand name on items that aren't made in >> "Milwaukee". Furthermore, they shouldn't have the nads to charge >> full retail price(same price as the US Made drill kit) for something >> they're saving significant manufacturing dollars on supposedly. Call >> it a Green Bay, or an Oshkosh, but don't call it a Milwaukee!! >> >> Now enter Craftsman in to the fold. Craftsman used to have an >> overseas-produced tool brand called Companion for the budget minded >> shopper. It may have been re-badged recently to the Evolv brand. If >> Craftsman label it's overseas-made tools as Craftsman, then I stick >> them in the same pot as MIlwaukee, although some of the Craftsman >> overseas made stuff is cheaper than what used to be made in the US. >> >> What's a Mother to do? >> >> DM&FS >> >> At 12:16 PM 6/13/2010, Courtney Hook wrote: >> >>> I just went out and checked my new Craftsman Socket set which is >>> beautiful. >>> Guaranteed forever; give it to your great grandchildren and even >>> they can >>> return it. Made in China. >>> Courtney >>> >>> >>> I buy tools from Harbor Freight (the store, not the catalog) and >>>> usually find nothing wrong with them, my breaker bars for the lug >>>> nuts are from HF and the sockets from Sears (a new Craftsman 19mm >>>> socket was the same price as one from the local pawn shop), I was not >>>> able to get the single correct socket (6pt) from HF. >>>> I generally buy the best tool I can afford when I need it & I don't >>>> fear HF tools. >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> becida@comcast.net >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 12, 2010, at 12:30 PM, neil n wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>> This is one set of tools that I would NOT buy at Harbor Freight. >>>>>>> --snip-- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> , >>> >> -- Jake 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX 'The Grey Van' 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie' Crescent Beach, BC www.thebassspa.com www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
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