There have been some nights I wish I had an A/C in my vanagon. I give props to all�who want to do what they want.
�
�Just remember Say what you mean and mean what you say, those that mind don't matter and those that matter don't mind. 
�
This Vanagon list is like a comedy show, watching all of you and your bickering. I love it!!!

Danny C.
Portland, Oregon
'84 Westy (Vanny)
�
�

--- On Wed, 6/9/10, Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Oxymoron Alert: AC While Camping
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 8:51 AM

I agree somewhat but on the other hand there are those of us who use our
campers for
more than just camping.���And if it is your full-time dwelling, well, then I
think it's a good
reason to give the AC a waiver....���Just MHO.....� � :)

Vanagon content.���Went up to my father-in-laws ranch on Memorial Day
weekend and had
my Catalina awning out.� A damn huge dust devil blew through and bent the
slide out frames
enough to make the thing unusable....� � :(

Steven

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Peter T. Owsianowski <pnoceanwesty@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Mark:� I'ts just opinions and friendly discussions, Mark.� Everybody
> does things like camping a little differently and it's fun to voice
> your opinion and see how others do it - not passing judgement on
> anyone.
>
> On 6/9/10, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:
> > Why do so many here seem to think that how they live and do things is
> > the only ideal and anything different is verging on evil?
> >
> > The "majority of humanity" does without a lot of things you have, is
> > that really the standard you wish applied to yourself or only to those
> > you deem your lessers at camp?
> >
> > Camping in a Vanagon of any sort is far above where I and many others
> > started out. A knapsack and blanket was all I needed 40 years ago when I
> > was 16. I later moved on in stages to bike camping, motorcycle camping,
> > car camping, and now van camping. At what point did I go wrong? How do I
> > reverse the effects of aging so I can sleep on the bare ground again?
> >
> > I have seen people be happy with almost nothing at camp, as well as
> > others that were content with far more than I would even want. The point
> > is to go places and do things with a smile in your heart. Build a wall
> > of smug superiority around your heart instead if you must but please
> > leave it off the Vanagon list as we are a diverse bunch with varying
> > ways of doing things, evolving at our own pace.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Don Hanson wrote:
> >>� � Yeah, "camping" in a Westie....that's really what is called
> >> "car-camping"
> >> .� When you pull your vehicle right up to a picnic table and live out of
> >> it...that is "car camping".
> >>
> >>���If you spend most of your time inside, in your air conditioning, I'd
> say
> >> you aren't camping anymore, you are "RV-ing"� I'd be really put off if
> >> some
> >> Westie spied us in a formal campground and "camped" next door (because
> we
> >> are Vanagon folks, too) and then they fired up a generator to run their
> >> air
> >> conditioner and watch videos and run the microwave...etc etc.
> >>
> >>� � I don't really get the point of driving to some semi-remote
> "campsite"
> >> only to spend the whole time "indoors"...especially indoors in a
> >> Vanagon..You may as well stay home indoors or bring a "real" RV, one
> with
> >> a
> >> couple of pop-out rooms and some TVs and stuff..
> >>
> >>� � Doesn't the majority of humanity do ok without AC?
> >>
> >> Don Hanson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> Pete
> '79 Westy "Aardvark"
> '87 Westy "JoesVan"
> WWW.Busesbythebeach.com
>