Breaker bar is the way to go. If you think about it the 4-way wrench has
about half the leverage of the a breaker bar -- maybe less because of how
far out from the lug it is. And you never know how much the dudes in the
shop have cranked their air wrenches when putting your tires back
on................I had a really bad experience with a 78 Westy and a flat
tire I couldn't remove either with the stock wrench or a borrowed 4-way.

Cheers,
Doug

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> ---- Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > well, as I mentioned before, there is a stock scissors jack available
> > from bus depot.
> >
> > http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=237011031
> >
> > but go ahead and adapt another jack :)
>
> Thanks Alistair.  Now another question.  I've never actually removed a tire
> and wheel from the van myself.  I have, under the rear seat with the jack,
> an old fashioned four armed lug nut wrench.  One socket on the wrench fits
> the lug nuts.  But, should I have instead a breaker bar?  And should I use a
> torque wrench to refit the lugs?  What torque value?  thanks, DMc
>  >
> > alistair
> >
> >
> >
> > On 20-Jun-10, at 8:24 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
> >
> > When I first got the camper, I went through a drill to try out the
> > OEM jack.  I did not and do not like it, as it did not seem as stable
> > as the scissors jacks that I have been accustomed to with Japanese
> > vehicles.  But, it worked, and I have not done anything about a
> > better jack.  One question I have, and have been a bit put off by in
> > considering other jacks, is how does one adapt them to the jack
> > points built into the side of the van?  A scissors or a bottle jack
> > either needs a notch or at least a flat place to fit the jack
> > platform.  How do you guys deal with that?  I would like to have a
> > jack that I trust more to remain stable while changing a flat if
> > needed.  Thanks, David McNeely
> >
>
> --
> David McNeely
>

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