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"  If you are talking about the piece of plywood, that's a warning for
> all of us. I was just going to thank David for making me rethink the
> piece of warped 1/2 inch sitting in the back of my pickup.

Hi all
If the subjust is being safety conscious with loads on our vanagons,
I hope the guy that insisted on carrying his spare tire loose on top of this
van in a big basket type rack ...
despite my requests to at least tie it down ...
 will read some of this and it will have a postive affect.