and if the objective is to not *buy* anything ..

I find my cheater pipes just laying around.
Just find something to use as a cheater pipe, with the cross 4 way breaker
bar is my suggestion.....
something free.
 go to some plumbing place or welder place and get it out of their scrap.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <becida@COMCAST.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: lug nuts torque-

> At  6/25/2010 07:57 AM, Alistair Bell wrote:
>>get the breaker bar as a few of us advised before
>>
>>
>>I really don't understand the reluctance to get a real wrench, ie
>>1/2" breaker bar and socket for this job.
>>
>>oh well Dave, to each his own.
>>
>>alistair
>
> I think you get a real appreciation for the breaker bar/socket AFTER
> the 4 way or stock lug nut tool did not work. If the failure happens
> in the rain-snow-dark it just helps you appreciate the bar & socket
> approach.
>
>
>
> Rob
> becida@comcast.net