Fair enough.

Reliability is not detrimentally affected by leaving the old ones in there.

Albeit your method keeps with stock routing and looks nice(r).

peace,
-Ry

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:04 AM, dylan <insyncro@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Cool, thats your method.
> "Some conductivity" in a few more years will be no conductivity.
> I remove the old and replace with new.
> My vans and clients vans really appreciate the effort.
> Reliability is the highest concern at my shop.
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com>
> *To:* dylan <insyncro@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
> *Sent:* Sat, July 24, 2010 11:44:13 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Symptoms of a bad starter?
>
> the old cables are not "useless"  they are still providing some
> conductivity, so adding new cables to the old cables will be likely better
> than "new".
>
> ~$40 for all the cable to replace.
>
> -Ry
> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:25 AM, dylan <insyncro@yahoo.com<http://us.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/dc/mailto%3A%25e%25>
> > wrote:
>
>> I remove the old useless cable. Why keep it?
>> I replace them with cables exclusively from 90 or 91 vans that had the
>> dual
>> battery setup stock.
>> I test all compnents before doing anyhting.
>>
>> If you want new cable...be prepared to pay handsomely.
>> Welding supply has what you need.
>>
>> FYI, 1.9 starters are 3/4 hp vs. 1 hp for the 2.1s.
>> Watch it on rebuilds.
>> They don't differentiate between the two any longer.
>> I send all 3/4 horse starters back and don't even mess with them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM<http://us.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/dc/mailto%3A%25e%25>
>> >
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<http://us.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/dc/mailto%3A%25e%25>
>> Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 8:49:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad starter?
>>
>>  So if you run a new cable, you just run it strait from the battery to
>> the
>> starter?
>> Do you remove the old one? Does the old one go exclusively from the
>> battery
>> strait to the charger?
>>
>> So, you would get a piece of wire, with the same battery post clamp on one
>> end? (And the eye on the other).
>>
>> -Craig
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com<http://us.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/dc/mailto%3A%25e%25>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I had similar problems on my 2.1.  My solution, which may or may not
>> work
>> > for you, was to run parallel cables at the following locations.
>> > Battery <----------------------------> starter ~ 11 feet
>> > Front Transmission <---------> Body  ~ 8 inches  (make sure not to
>> connect
>> > just to the transmission mount bolts as this is electrically insulated
>> from
>> > the rest of the engine/transmission assembly by the rubber mount)
>> > Alternator <---------> Starter    ~2.5 feet
>> >
>> > All cables made from 2/0 purchased from welding supply and crimp
>> connected
>> > to closed ring connectors found in the same supply store.
>> >
>> > My van starts with ZERO hesitation now and turns over super quick.
>> Before
>> > I couldn't get it to turn over and jumping it would barely work.
>> >
>> > MIGHT be your whole problem or just PART of the problem.  The other
>> things
>> > mentioned about the brushes wearing out are also a likely culprit.
>> >
>> > -Ry
>> > http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:13 AM, craig cowan <phishman068@gmail.com<http://us.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/dc/mailto%3A%25e%25>
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > So, my starter is a randomly picked, untested 1.9 starter that was in
>> a
>> > > pile
>> > > of them some years ago.
>> > >
>> > > Lately, the bus simply won't start. I get great power to all the
>> > > accessories, the battery appears to be holding and charging just fine,
>> > but
>> > > the thing just won't turn over fast enough to be of any value. I've
>> > cleaned
>> > > all my grounds, I've tightened all my leads, and yet.... no dice.
>> > > Jumping the battery off another car no longer has any effect.
>> > >
>> > > I'm starting to think my starter is a bad egg. Any thoughts?
>> > > What type of symptoms would be expected from a failing starter....if
>> > other
>> > > than what I described?
>> > >
>> > > -Craig
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>