

| Subject: | Re: Oil overfill... or not? (long post) |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:58:54 -0700 |
I just installed a tencentlife oil cooler set up.. I approve of it. the more delux syncro version has a temp triggered electric fan on it too. goes behind right tail light. bit expensive though.. around 500 ish I think. Scott turbovans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alistair Bell" <albell@SHAW.CA> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:53 AM Subject: Re: Oil overfill... or not? (long post) > if you search on the samba classifieds for "tencentlife" , he has a > good looking oil cooler system for sale... > > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=514460 > > > I think the coolant cooling system, if in good condition, is good in > the vanagon. I mean it has good capacity to cool. One wonders though, > with our older vans, just how tip top shape the cooling system is. > Oil cooling might be improved especially when driving loaded westy at > speed. Oil temps seem to, in my experience, go up in relationship to > engine rpm, whereas at speed the airflow through rad keeps coolant > temp in check. You notice that rad fan comes on more often when > idling or going slow. > > My highest oil temps have occurred (in my I4 conversion) when driving > fast in hot weather. My highest oil and coolant temps happening > together have occurred when labouring up steep rough roads in low > gears (even down to first), fully loaded westy, summer trips - low > vehicle speed but high engine rpm. > > Ideally, oil temps should be around 100 C, give or take. I had oil > temp and press. gauges in my westy, VDO, and while its debatable just > how accurate they were, they did give relative info that I liked to > have. > > Also, I always used synthetic oils in that engine. Just for peace of > mind and knowing the little engine would be working hard and needed > all the help it could get. Oh and while this is not applicable to the > wasserboxer, I did install a "windage plate" between sump and block. > That is supposed to reduce oil foaming a bit, and reduce oil slop on > cornering. > > > alistair > > PS Adventurous European Vanagon drivers travel in N. Africa and also > there are Vanagons in S. Africa. Web searches might give you info on > their solutions. I know that there is at least on German supplier > (Bernd Jager?) that installs front mounted oil cooler an long supply > lines for diesel installs. > > > On 5-Aug-10, at 9:03 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote: > > > so, is this German vehicle just not engineered to operate at the > elevated temperatures that we experience in the hotter parts of NA? > I know that people do run them in Arizona, Baja, Texas, Southern > California. Are my experiences consistent with those of others? I'm > not having any running problems, and the engine seems to run at the > proper operating temperature, so far as the coolant system reports. > Oil pressure is certainly "adequate" as reported by the gauge. > Mechanics have told me not to worry about the occasional blinking of > the oil pressure light at idle, so long as slightly raising the rpms > causes it to stop blinking, and it stays stopped when the rpms drop. > But the blinking resulting from long runs at elevated ambient > temperatures, coupled with the "low adequate" oil pressure on those > runs makes me wonder about oil temperature. > > Are the more robust (effective) oil coolers that you mention > available for install on the beast? If so, do they add maintenance > concerns of their own? I have generally preferred to keep things > stock on a vehicle, not wanting to simply create other matters to > deal with. After all, excellent engineers designed it -- or not? Of > course, the waterboxer is a problematic engine in other regards, too, > and its high maintenance demands make me less than in love with it, > as some of you already know. > > But, it performed well on the trip out west, and my wife loves it for > its camping utility. Keeps her off the ground except when we > backpack, and she likes the kitchen. When I cook while camping, I > often do a good part of it outdoors, and I always wash up outdoors -- > easier to me than the tiny sink. Two can hardly work on cooking > together with the available space in the camper. > > Dave
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