mike must have been talking to the original poster about that guy's vice
grips, not me and my various pairs of vice grips.  sorry .
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mbucchino@charter.net>
To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>;
<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(

>  Get a new pair of 'quality' vice-grips.  I bet yours are old/ worn/
> smooth jaws/ cheap HF ones.  Use the ones that have a curved jaw with
> sharp teeth. Works every time.
>  If they're slipping, they're the problem, not the bolt.  I just removed
> my axles and had to use vice-grips on the outside of half of them!  The
> cheap, worn ones slipped no matter how hard I clamped them!  The good ones
> bit in so hard that they left tooth marks.
> Ymmv,
> Mike B.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 6:54 PM
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Subject:      Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
>
>> hi ,
>> it's not 'taping with a hammer' on top of stuck cv joint screw..
>> it's very sharp severe whacks, not 'thud' ..
>> but sharp whack.
>> with a short drift and good ball been hammer,
>> give it like 20 of those.
>> 10 might be enough ....of .really sharp hard whacks if using the chisel
>> method below.
>> for the screw whacking I  use an old king pin for a drift..
>> it's extra hard steel, really transfers the force.
>>
>> then with the chisel you're going to unscrew it in a circle with the cold
>> chisel.
>> dig a hard notch in the top outer edge of the screw, aimed in the
>> unscrewing
>> direction.
>>
>> somethings it's hit the chisel 40 times..
>> or much fewer if you're lucky ..and it'll unscrew finally.
>> then remove it with the vice grips.
>>
>> there's anohter pre-chisel trick, and that's to tighten the screw some
>> first, or if it won't unscrew, tighten it some if it will, that helps
>> them
>> unscrew nicely sometimes.
>>
>> the upgrade 12 point screws are better..
>> need a special tool, but they are harder metal.
>> I've seen just one of those stripped out in hundreds of vanagons and cv
>> joints and screws...
>> and umpteen stripped out 6mm allen ones.
>>
>> scott
>> www.turbovans.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Courtney Hook" <courtneyhook@SHAW.CA>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:27 PM
>> Subject: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
>>
>>
>> Alright, I've gotten every CV joint allen head out except for one on the
>> stub end. The AH PO obviously was a wanker, as there is NO way this thing
>> wants to come out. He must have had the Incredible Hulk torque it up for
>> him. Did I mention that it already looked like he re-used a bolt that was
>> somewhat ovaled instead of 6 sided!!Things I've tried so far after WD-40
>> over the last few days, and tapping it with a hammer:
>>
>> 1) Quality Crafstman allen head socket and ratchet. No way, just spun
>> out.
>> 2) Vice Grips on outside - just spun around the bolt even though I reefed
>> them on there as hard as I could, and checked I had clearance to spin the
>> grips. No way.
>> 3) Took a cold chisel and ridged the outside circumference to get the
>> vice
>> grips to bite better instead of spinning. No way, still spun. :-(
>> 4) Threw a temper tantrum and spoke in tongues I learned in the Army.
>> Wife
>> not impressed. Me either.
>>
>> So what's number 5?? Get out my mig, and weld an allen wrench piece into
>> the
>> hole and use it as an "extension" Little worried about the grease, oil,
>> gas,
>> electronics about this one.
>> Thanks,
>> Courtney (Eyeing some Bud Limes right about now so I don't start speaking
>> in
>> tongues again)
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Always be yourself, because the people that matter don't mind,
>> and the ones who mind, don't matter.
>