Well thankyou for all the excellent suggestions folks, much appreciated, and
after "cooling off" I will attack it again tomorrow. I actually was using
Vice Grip brand grips that are fairly new, but hey, at 56 I'm gettin' kinda
whimpy on the clamping power. So far, grinding the head off sounds like the
winner. I have no shortage of dremels, angle grinders, and various tools of
mass destruction. Also my apologies for not mentioning it's a loaf, but as
we all know, when the anger goes up, the reasoning power goes down. :-)
Regards,
Courtney

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