You are a BRAVE man. ;-)
Courtney

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Always be yourself, because the people that matter don't mind,
and the ones who mind, don't matter.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Wellhouse" <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(

> The Vice Grip/Irwin units sold in the big box stores these days are
> made in China.  Caveat Emptor.  Found a pair of new US made
> Vise Grips at a yard sale last fall, but didn't want to pay $8 for
> them.  I would today!!  Secretly switched out the US made vise grip
> needle nose pliers my wife had in her tool box for a shiny new pair
> of the Irwins.  I don't think she noticed.....yet.
>
> DM&FS
>
> At 07:04 PM 8/9/2010, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>>Mike, how would you know what vice grips I probably have. ?
>>I hate that cheap HF junk.
>>I didn't exress any difficulty with vice grips - I don't even get where
>>you're coming from.
>>I was talking about 'when vice grips won't cut it' ..
>>the next tactic above vice grips, kapeesh .
>>
>>a good vice grips should dig in at the teeth for sure.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Mike" <mbucchino@charter.net>
>>To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>;
>><vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:21 PM
>>Subject: Re: Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
>>
>>
>>>  Get a new pair of 'quality' vice-grips.  I bet yours are old/ worn/
>>>smooth jaws/ cheap HF ones.  Use the ones that have a curved jaw with
>>>sharp teeth. Works every time.
>>>  If they're slipping, they're the problem, not the bolt.  I just removed
>>>my axles and had to use vice-grips on the outside of half of them!  The
>>>cheap, worn ones slipped no matter how hard I clamped them!  The good
>>>ones
>>>bit in so hard that they left tooth marks.
>>>Ymmv,
>>>Mike B.
>>>
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>>>From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
>>>Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 6:54 PM
>>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>Subject:      Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
>>>
>>>>hi ,
>>>>it's not 'taping with a hammer' on top of stuck cv joint screw..
>>>>it's very sharp severe whacks, not 'thud' ..
>>>>but sharp whack.
>>>>with a short drift and good ball been hammer,
>>>>give it like 20 of those.
>>>>10 might be enough ....of .really sharp hard whacks if using the chisel
>>>>method below.
>>>>for the screw whacking I  use an old king pin for a drift..
>>>>it's extra hard steel, really transfers the force.
>>>>
>>>>then with the chisel you're going to unscrew it in a circle with the
>>>>cold
>>>>chisel.
>>>>dig a hard notch in the top outer edge of the screw, aimed in the
>>>>unscrewing
>>>>direction.
>>>>
>>>>somethings it's hit the chisel 40 times..
>>>>or much fewer if you're lucky ..and it'll unscrew finally.
>>>>then remove it with the vice grips.
>>>>
>>>>there's anohter pre-chisel trick, and that's to tighten the screw some
>>>>first, or if it won't unscrew, tighten it some if it will, that helps
>>>>them
>>>>unscrew nicely sometimes.
>>>>
>>>>the upgrade 12 point screws are better..
>>>>need a special tool, but they are harder metal.
>>>>I've seen just one of those stripped out in hundreds of vanagons and cv
>>>>joints and screws...
>>>>and umpteen stripped out 6mm allen ones.
>>>>
>>>>scott
>>>>www.turbovans.com
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Courtney Hook" <courtneyhook@SHAW.CA>
>>>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>>Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:27 PM
>>>>Subject: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Alright, I've gotten every CV joint allen head out except for one on the
>>>>stub end. The AH PO obviously was a wanker, as there is NO way this
>>>>thing
>>>>wants to come out. He must have had the Incredible Hulk torque it up for
>>>>him. Did I mention that it already looked like he re-used a bolt that
>>>>was
>>>>somewhat ovaled instead of 6 sided!!Things I've tried so far after WD-40
>>>>over the last few days, and tapping it with a hammer:
>>>>
>>>>1) Quality Crafstman allen head socket and ratchet. No way, just spun
>>>>out.
>>>>2) Vice Grips on outside - just spun around the bolt even though I
>>>>reefed
>>>>them on there as hard as I could, and checked I had clearance to spin
>>>>the
>>>>grips. No way.
>>>>3) Took a cold chisel and ridged the outside circumference to get the
>>>>vice
>>>>grips to bite better instead of spinning. No way, still spun. :-(
>>>>4) Threw a temper tantrum and spoke in tongues I learned in the Army.
>>>>Wife
>>>>not impressed. Me either.
>>>>
>>>>So what's number 5?? Get out my mig, and weld an allen wrench piece into
>>>>the
>>>>hole and use it as an "extension" Little worried about the grease, oil,
>>>>gas,
>>>>electronics about this one.
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Courtney (Eyeing some Bud Limes right about now so I don't start
>>>>speaking
>>>>in
>>>>tongues again)
>>>>
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>>>>Always be yourself, because the people that matter don't mind,
>>>>and the ones who mind, don't matter.