

| Subject: | Re: semi-urgent auto transmission question |
| From: | Roger VanTill |
| Date: | Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:47:27 -0400 |
I loves my German Transaxle rebuilt! On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > re > > but the shift points seemed a little lower than before." > > > there's one external adjustment that affects shift points .. > the length of the rod from throttle lever on side of trans to throttle > body. > > might ask if that was changed or adjusted. > other than that, for shift points I think of governor. > > wouldn't hurt to suck a little ATF out of the filler tube. > one auto trans shop I had work on a volvo auto trans of mine, had a nifty > little home made glass bottle and tube arrangement .. > they just taped into engine vaccuum to get the suction .. > and you pull out say, a couple inches of ATF into the bottle. > > I doubt being overfull a tiny bit is causing your problems ...but overful > can be a very bad thing and it's better to be sure . > > I have a hunch the shop might be wondering themselves what is going on. > they are pertty fmaiiar with vanagon automatics ? > > I'm kinda shocked that 'modern' shops and technicians can be almost baffled > by a simple old vw bus... > the vanagon. > One guy in colorado had his 2WD vanagon in for a smog test on rollers > ...the > smog tech thought it was front wheel drive .. > that is being pretty clueless, or not looking in the lists I'm sure they > must have that tell how to test each type of US model car or van. > > gets a bit scary. I would say it's worth it to send the trans to a > transmission rebuilding shop that does a lot of them. German Transaxle in > Bend OR is sure one. > > to give you an idea of their level of expereince or expertise, I was > working > on a vanagon that just would not shift up into 3rd. > The van's owner didn't want to put real money into fixing it, so went for > cleaning, inspecting, looking at the valve body etc. In that process, > taking to German Transaxle .. > found out that they sell rebuilt Valve Bodies....but here is the impressive > part - they have a dyno to test them on. > and when you read in Bentley how to set up little adjustable spring > tensions in the valve body relative to hydrualic pressure ...you start > seeing it gets pretty complicated. > like the valve body is a Anologue Computer really ... > takes inputs, makes decesions, has outputs .....tricky darn part. > > my point is, without expereince and fancy equipment like that ..I suspect > that some trans rebuilding shops figure to replace worn parts, and things > should work as they did before .. > which may not really be the case always. > > anyway, hope someone gets it figured out ! > Personally, I'd check the differential oil level and CV joint screws .. > Iv'e seen all kinds of things done wrong by shops ..it's almost normal. > > scott > www.turbovans.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward Maglott" <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:39 AM > Subject: semi-urgent auto transmission question > > > Got my 86 van back a week or so ago after a transmission rebuild that >> has been a saga. I will cover that in more detail at some >> point. The short version is that the rebuilder had the van twice, >> and for a long time both times. >> >> When I got it back a week ago the trans was working better than I've >> ever experienced in a vanagon. But then I've only had basically worn >> out transmissions in mine. So over the 100 miles or so I've driven >> it since I got it back, it has developed a problem when cold. Today >> I start the van, let it idle about a minute and back up my driveway, >> which is uphill. Fine. Put it in D and hear/feel nothing. Step on >> the gas and it revs freely up to about 2500 then the van takes off >> with a thud. For about the first block, it felt like it was maybe >> slipping or was in 2nd gear instead of 1st. After that it drove >> normally, but the shift points seemed a little lower than before. >> >> I think this symptom has to do with the trans not properly developing >> pressure when cold? I've had the slipping in R when cold symptom >> before this rebuild so I'm a little surprised it went up the driveway >> so well in R and then didn't engage D. >> >> Checking the fluid level, it seems a tiny bit high. Probably about >> 1/8" above the top mark based on checking it hot, many times, and >> parked on different "level looking" places to try to get a good >> reading. Could this be a factor? >> >> I was planning on taking a trip for about a week in the next few >> days. Probably 1000 miles or less. I can deal with the symptoms I >> have now but don't know if it will get worse or damage something >> inside worse. Opinions? >> >> Edward >> >
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