An oil cooler will make your engine live a longer and happier life Mike.

The Bus Boys kit doesn't include an oil thermostat - no wonder its cheaper.

Tencent supplies a complete well thought out kit for your engine at a very
reasonable price.

Jake

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <
camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, does anyone know whether the Bus Boys kit at
>
> <http://www.bus-boys.com/oilcoolingremote.html>
>
> is as effective as tencentlife's kit? For the 1.9L?
>
> tencentlife's kit is quite a bit more expensive than the $132 that BB
> wants for their ZAP-11705 kit.
>
> Finally, is putting on an oil cooler worthwhile? I mean, sure, it's
> awesome and cool and all that, but will my engine notice? I've gone up
> some mighty steep grades on very very hot days without overheating.
>
>
> --
> Rocky J Squirrel
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 15:33 -0700, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> > any decent air type oil cooler system..
> > will have oil flow controlled by a thermostat.
> >
> > like when cold, the oil isn't cooled by the oil cooler at all.
> >
> > I just put a super nice air type oil cooler onto a 91 Syncro with 2.1 (
> > actually 2.2 ) waterboxer engine .
> >
> > this came from tencentlife on theSamba ..
> > Chris Corkin .
> > comes in 3 versions I think , his kit ...1.9 wbxr, 2.1 2WD and Sycrno.
> > I installed the top grade syncro one.
> > nice black oil radiator, about 8 or 10 inches sqare,
> > fits right behind the right tail light, comes with parts on it to make it
> > fit perfectly there.
> >
> > has a sandwich plate adapter at the oil cooler .......which is where the
> > t-stat is.
> > the deluxe syncro version has a temp triggered electric fan on it.
> >
> > and nice blue oil lines to connect it all.
> > the deluxe version I think is over 500 bucks though if you buy this
> > ready-to-bolt on kit.
> > if you buy the indifvidual parts online yourself and build it, costs less
> > I'm sure.
> > that it's all figured out, tested, and with very good instructions is
> sure
> > nice though...getting a kit that's all ready to install.
> >
> > for a first step on my own vans I'm going to monitor oil pressure and
> temp
> > ..
> > and if I find the oil temp getting to ...like pushing 250F ..then I know
> it
> > needs a real oil cooler for hot conditions.
> >
> > a manual valve is not right.
> > do it right. Thermostat controlled oil coolers have been around for a
> long,
> > long time.
> > Every air-cooled Porsche 911 has one, built right into the block.
> >
> > the water heat exchanger on 2.1 wbxr engines is a little different ..
> > it serves to help warm up the oil first, them when not serves to keep the
> > temp down a little I beleive.
> >
> > some people fit bigger water type oil cooler/heat exchangers ...
> > like on tdi engines ...instead of the normal size we are used to on 21.
> > wbxr's ..
> > they put on a much taller one from a Tourareg or various Audi models.
> >
> > but for 'real' oil cooling , for high temps and loads..
> > I'd say ..thermostatically controlled air type external oil cooler ..and
> > mounted inside the body of the van, with decent air flow to it.
> >
> > they are another possible failure point, but done really well, there's
> not
> > that much risk.
> > The kit I put on sure looks solidly done.
> >
> > scott
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Mcneely" <mcneely4@COX.NET>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:13 AM
> > Subject: I am considering installing an auxiliary oil cooler
> >
> >
> > > on my "91 Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile 2.1 waterboxer.
> > >
> > > It occurred to me that if the oil cooler works well, the oil might run
> too
> > > cool when ambient temperatures are relatively low.  Is it possible (and
> > > practical, reasonable) to install a valve in the feed line for the
> cooler
> > > (and maybe another in the return line) that could be opened and closed
> > > depending on need?  I realize that this would create an additional
> > > complication -- that it would be another point for possible failure.
>  Or
> > > am I just trying to over engineer something?  Anyone with experience
> with
> > > an auxiliary oil cooler might know if I am trying to solve a problem
> that
> > > doesn't exist.  Maybe the oil would have no problem running hot enough,
> > > even with the extra cooling capacity.
> > > Thanks, DMc
> > > --
> > > David McNeely
>

--
Jake

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