On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:19 -0700, Jake de Villiers wrote:
> An oil cooler will make your engine live a longer and happier life
> Mike.

But will I have a longer and happier life if I install it?

> The Bus Boys kit doesn't include an oil thermostat - no wonder its
> cheaper.

Ah, yes. I see. But they say, farther down that page:

ZAP-11780  Oil Thermostat.  Opens at 175º F.  Bypasses Oil Cooler Below
175º for Quick Warm-Up.  Includes Fittings and Clamps.  $79.35

NOTE:  This thermostat must be installed between the oil filter and
cooler for proper operation.  Strongly recommended for proper engine
warm-up in cool weather operation.

> Tencent supplies a complete well thought out kit for your engine at a
> very reasonable price.

Sounds like a good kit, fershure, but out of my price range.

--
Rocky J Squirrel

>
> Jake
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Rocket J Squirrel
> <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
>         Well, does anyone know whether the Bus Boys kit at
>
>         <http://www.bus-boys.com/oilcoolingremote.html>
>
>
>         is as effective as tencentlife's kit? For the 1.9L?
>
>         tencentlife's kit is quite a bit more expensive than the $132
>         that BB
>         wants for their ZAP-11705 kit.
>
>         Finally, is putting on an oil cooler worthwhile? I mean, sure,
>         it's
>         awesome and cool and all that, but will my engine notice? I've
>         gone up
>         some mighty steep grades on very very hot days without
>         overheating.
>
>
>         --
>         Rocky J Squirrel
>
>
>         On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 15:33 -0700, Scott Daniel - Turbovans
>         wrote:
>         > any decent air type oil cooler system..
>         > will have oil flow controlled by a thermostat.
>         >
>         > like when cold, the oil isn't cooled by the oil cooler at
>         all.
>         >
>         > I just put a super nice air type oil cooler onto a 91 Syncro
>         with 2.1 (
>         > actually 2.2 ) waterboxer engine .
>         >
>         > this came from tencentlife on theSamba ..
>         > Chris Corkin .
>         > comes in 3 versions I think , his kit ...1.9 wbxr, 2.1 2WD
>         and Sycrno.
>         > I installed the top grade syncro one.
>         > nice black oil radiator, about 8 or 10 inches sqare,
>         > fits right behind the right tail light, comes with parts on
>         it to make it
>         > fit perfectly there.
>         >
>         > has a sandwich plate adapter at the oil cooler .......which
>         is where the
>         > t-stat is.
>         > the deluxe syncro version has a temp triggered electric fan
>         on it.
>         >
>         > and nice blue oil lines to connect it all.
>         > the deluxe version I think is over 500 bucks though if you
>         buy this
>         > ready-to-bolt on kit.
>         > if you buy the indifvidual parts online yourself and build
>         it, costs less
>         > I'm sure.
>         > that it's all figured out, tested, and with very good
>         instructions is sure
>         > nice though...getting a kit that's all ready to install.
>         >
>         > for a first step on my own vans I'm going to monitor oil
>         pressure and temp
>         > ..
>         > and if I find the oil temp getting to ...like pushing
>         250F ..then I know it
>         > needs a real oil cooler for hot conditions.
>         >
>         > a manual valve is not right.
>         > do it right. Thermostat controlled oil coolers have been
>         around for a long,
>         > long time.
>         > Every air-cooled Porsche 911 has one, built right into the
>         block.
>         >
>         > the water heat exchanger on 2.1 wbxr engines is a little
>         different ..
>         > it serves to help warm up the oil first, them when not
>         serves to keep the
>         > temp down a little I beleive.
>         >
>         > some people fit bigger water type oil cooler/heat
>         exchangers ...
>         > like on tdi engines ...instead of the normal size we are
>         used to on 21.
>         > wbxr's ..
>         > they put on a much taller one from a Tourareg or various
>         Audi models.
>         >
>         > but for 'real' oil cooling , for high temps and loads..
>         > I'd say ..thermostatically controlled air type external oil
>         cooler ..and
>         > mounted inside the body of the van, with decent air flow to
>         it.
>         >
>         > they are another possible failure point, but done really
>         well, there's not
>         > that much risk.
>         > The kit I put on sure looks solidly done.
>         >
>         > scott
>         > ----- Original Message -----
>         > From: "Dave Mcneely" <mcneely4@COX.NET>
>         > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>         > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:13 AM
>         > Subject: I am considering installing an auxiliary oil cooler
>         >
>         >
>         > > on my "91 Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile 2.1 waterboxer.
>         > >
>         > > It occurred to me that if the oil cooler works well, the
>         oil might run too
>         > > cool when ambient temperatures are relatively low.  Is it
>         possible (and
>         > > practical, reasonable) to install a valve in the feed line
>         for the cooler
>         > > (and maybe another in the return line) that could be
>         opened and closed
>         > > depending on need?  I realize that this would create an
>         additional
>         > > complication -- that it would be another point for
>         possible failure.  Or
>         > > am I just trying to over engineer something?  Anyone with
>         experience with
>         > > an auxiliary oil cooler might know if I am trying to solve
>         a problem that
>         > > doesn't exist.  Maybe the oil would have no problem
>         running hot enough,
>         > > even with the extra cooling capacity.
>         > > Thanks, DMc
>         > > --
>         > > David McNeely
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jake
>
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