just two comments..
I prefer to keep the driving experience..
the handling and general spottiness of the driving enhanced,
and compromise the camping experience a little, rather than the other way
around.

re toyota vans ..
try working on them.
they don't need a lot, but when the do ..
one of the worst cars there is anywhere to work on.

like 'sure is nice when it's working right'
and fortunately, to toyota's well-deserved credit, they mosty work and work
and run and run,
but when you gotta work on 'em ..
they're super nasty. ..mainly engine area.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Hanson" <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: that is one very beautiful vanangon ... sigh ...

>  Totally purpose built campers like that,  I guess they have their place.
> I have a skookum older Alaskan camper, slide in with a telescoping
> roof...it's fine if you are camping.  But when you are traveling with
> stuff
> and dogs aboard...not so good.  This one looks like that...lots of cool
> little ideas for when you are camping...but if you look at it close and
> think about real life traveling...
> As long as your "stuff" fits into all those neat little cabinets, you are
> ok..but if you want to bring anything else...where will it go....And that
> rack....I have one similar on my work truck....it is really heavy with
> that
> diamond grid...That vehicle must be a nightmare on anything other than a
> very smooth and flat freeway..
>
>  I've built vans similar...very fancy, very complete, very heavy very slow
> and 'locked-in' to the way they are...Then I use the thing and wish.."
> Geeze, that shower coulda been bigger and the dinette smaller" or "why did
> I
> put that pump under there?"  Or, "I wish I could take that road, but this
> thing will fall apart" or "Will I fit under the bank drive up?"...
>
>  If I were going to really own a Mini-motor home, it probably wouldn't be
> "like a small Toyota"...It probabaly would be a small Toyota...see them
> around all the time in my travels...same ones, year after year...doing
> fine,
> not sitting in someones back lot, busted...
>
>  Don Hanson
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Jarrett Anthony Kupcinski <
> kupcinski@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I saw one like that when I was in Paris a couple years back. The wife had
>> to endure 10 minutes of me taking pictures and general oggling not even
>> 500
>> meters from the Eiffel Tower. It was VERY cool, but definitely not a
>> vanagon. It reminded me of a Rialta.
>>
>> -Jarrett
>> 89 Westy, Oly
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Roger VanTill wrote:
>>
>> > It's in the Samba classifieds. I've been drooling for a while now.
>> Supersize
>> > me!
>> >
>> > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1019707
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Michael Sullivan
>> > <sandwichhead@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think it IS VC.  No price, tho.
>> >> Michael in San Antonio
>> >> 91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Jake de Villiers <
>> >> crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Is it Fryedaye already?   My calendar must be broken...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Roger Whittaker <
>> rogerwhitt1@gmail.com
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> 1993 VW LT28 Westfalia 360-241-6812
>> >>>> 90K miles
>> >>>> This is a very rare European RV, only a few in the US! One foot
>> >>>> wider
>> >> and
>> >>>> longer then a regular Vanagon Westie. Larger then a Eurovan.
>> >>>
>> >>
>>