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Subject:Re: I am considering installing an auxiliary oil cooler
From:Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Date:Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:59:18 -0700

thanks for posting that site.

it does say
NOTE:  ZAP-11705 is recommended only for Vanagon Wasserboxers from 1983 to
1985.

for only 132 bucks...
worth trying out I think.
I'm not 1000 % clear that it's a remote air type oil cooler connected to the
engine with a sandwich adpater at the oil filter, with hoses, but I think it
is.

I think it would be very useful to monitor oil temps in a variety of
conditions first, then install oil cooler , so you'd have a real idea of
what difference it makes.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocket J Squirrel" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: I am considering installing an auxiliary oil cooler

> Where is tencentlife's ad to be found? I'm curious to know why the 1.9L
> version is spendier than the 2.1L version, and (finally) for my 1.9L,
> what's the scoop on "ZAP-11705  Oil Cooler Kit Complete,  72 Plate with
> "Sandwich" Oil Filter Adaptor  $132.00" shown on
> http://www.bus-boys.com/oilcoolingremote.html -- is it all a fellow
> needs to add oil cooling? Is doing so a worthwhile proposition?
>
> BTW, no problem with that page, Firefox on Ubuntu Linux.
>
> --
> Rocky J Squirrel
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 13:17 -0700, Alistair Bell wrote:
>> If you read tencentlife's ad you will find that it is
>> thermostatically controlled
>>
>> 1. Oil Cooler Kit: all kits include Mocal sandwich plate adapter with
>> built-in thermostatic control valve, efficient stacked-plate cooler,
>> pre-built Parker hoses with spin-on fittings, custom support
>> structure, engine intake air ducting, and all hardware. All oil
>> cooler kits install easily with basic tools, in base of right D-
>> pillar. Detailed instructions are provided.
>>
>> Different kits are available depending on year/model:
>>  >For 2.1 liter 2WD vans: $350.
>>  >For 1.9 2WD vans: $420.
>>  >For Syncro: $550. Syncro kit includes a built-in thermostatically
>> controlled SPAL fan to keep your oil cool during low-speed offroading
>> excursions.
>>
>> Oil Cooler Kit is strongly recommended to get the best performance
>> and longest service life from one of my rebuilds. I will increase
>> your warranty period from one year to two years when you buy and
>> install the oil cooler at the same time as your new engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> alistair
>>
>>
>> On 15-Sep-10, at 9:35 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
>>
>> Mark, the oil lines to the air cooled coils, for example a
>> TenCentLife oil cooler.    But please tell me more about the option
>> you mentioned.  Might be less prone to develop leaks, without oil
>> lines and connections?  DMc
>>
>> ---- VWBrain@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> > In a message dated 9/15/2010 11:23:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> > mcneely4@COX.NET writes:
>> >
>> > It  occurred to me that if the oil cooler works well, the oil might
>> > run too
>> > cool  when ambient temperatures are relatively low.  Is it possible
>> > (and
>> > practical, reasonable) to install a valve in the feed line for the
>> > cooler
>> > (and  maybe another in the return line) that could be opened and
>> > closed
>> > depending on  need?  I realize that this would create an additional
>> > complication --
>> >  that it would be another point for possible failure.  Or am I just
>> > trying
>> > to over engineer something?  Anyone with experience with an
>> > auxiliary oil
>> > cooler might know if I am trying to solve a problem that doesn't
>> > exist.
>> > Maybe the oil would have no problem running hot enough, even with
>> > the extra
>> > cooling capacity.
>> > Thanks, DMc
>> > --
>> > David  McNeely
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > hey David   what feed lines? the coolant ones?? seems like a lot  of
>> > trouble to use another water cooled oil cooler.  They make a
>> > sandwich  plate that
>> > allows you to hook up oil lines for a remote oil cooler that goes
>> > above the
>> > oil filter. this is the easiest way to install one and works very
>> > well on
>> > the type 4 motors we have put them on. I have never put one on a
>> > vannie
>> > later  mark d
>>
>> --
>> David McNeely