

| Subject: | Re: Seem rust restoration, etc |
| From: | Brandon Christophel |
| Date: | Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:10:25 -0700 |
Zoltan will came in under that price for me. He's in Lynnwood near Seattle. If you're close, it is will worth your time to bring it to him. I just saw mine today. I'm ecstatic with the work so far. On Sep 25, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Peter Lapp wrote: > I've actually been working on my seams the past two weekends and am painting > them as we speak. I don't have it bad at all, but there were a few seams > that were beginning to show a little rust, including the infamous driver > side "kitchen seam". I took the whole interior out and found a little on the > inside of that seam as well. Not much, but enough. > I sandblasted the inside seams and put POR-15 on top. I also cut out and > sandblasted a few problematic seams on the outside. Then I resealed them and > am in the middle of putting on some zinc chromate, primer, and paint. I > don't think my paint job is going to be that great, and it may not be > exactly the same color(I got my original color from paintscratch.com), but > slightly mismatched paint is better than rusty seams. > > I have no body/paint experience at all. I'd like to take it somewhere, but I > don't think anyone would do it right for under 5-10k. It is one big PITA to > do by myself though. > > > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote: > >> Zolly, >> >> The reason body shops don't do this kind of work is a typical Vanagon or >> any >> other vehicle owner won't pay for body PM type maintenance unless it a >> "apparent" good deal that's shoved down their throats when they bought the >> car new. Ziebart undercoating is a perfect example. The sales pitch goes >> something like "if you don't buy this expensive undercoating package your >> car body will rot away and the doors will fall off in 3 years and it's NOT >> SAFE FOR THE KIDS!!!". While this may have been the case in rust prone >> States in the 70s, it's no longer true for any good car made over the past >> 20 something years. >> >> So it's "drive and forget" until someone is willing to pay a body shop to >> cut out rot and weld in new steel or worse, cover it up with Bondo! >> >> But you already know this - maybe some Vanagon owners in your area who are >> in it for the long haul will enlist your services. I've replaced enough >> rotten steel over the years to know that prevention is always cheaper than >> replacing. >> >> Thanks, Tom >> www.stir-plate.com >> www.towercooler.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of >> Zolly >> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:05 PM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Seem rust restoration, etc >> >> I have been busy with restoring Vanagons now for years. Full restorations >> and partial body repairs, beside the general repairs I do, or the regular >> fuel line renewals. >> But some of you only would need seem rust elimination, which I do on all >> the >> vans I do and can be done without painting the whole car, saving the van >> from destruction. >> The most common rust is long seam under the inlets on the driver side. It >> can get out of hand and occasionally would lead to replacement of the >> rocker >> panel. Mostly it is rust coming from the inside from the insulation being >> soaked with water and keeping the seem wet all year around. It is not a >> problem for the non-camper vans though. >> An other common area is the right rear side seam, just above the wheel >> arch. >> Behind the rear wiper bottle. Although not as bad but the constantly wet >> insulation does the same from the inside and at times it can be terrible >> also. >> The Vanagon has about 43 feet of seam on the outside that by now has >> hardened and cracked most places. >> I cut it out as deep as possible, treat it with anti-rust agent, paint the >> inside with POR15, prime and apply new seam sealer, then paint it with the >> original color. Insulation is replaced with non water absorbing kind after >> the area has been similarly treated. >> It is a delicate job, requiring steady hands and experience. >> The removal of the camper's kitchen unit and restoring the area behind it >> is >> obviously the most demanding and time consuming work, but it has to be done >> to save the vehicle from certain destruction by rust. >> This kind of work is not a standard body shop item and would not be >> received >> well. Very unusual and awkward to them. >> >> I have pestered the List members before with my advocacy of fuel line >> changes, which I do very often, being also a "Save our Vanagon" item that >> is >> urged by the passing of time that makes the rubber hose hard and cracking >> and being under 36psi pressure, the 25 years old hose will start pissing >> onto the cables that may jump sparks or the hot exhaust that would start >> the >> fire. Some of you will lose your van to fire this way, others will get the >> fuel lines changed. >> >> If anyone is interested in the above items, may call me at 425 773 4646. >> >> Zoltan >>
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